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Hye Drinks,I`ll be picking up that 32-20 in a week.Any load data you have you would share for it with cast bullets?1892 Win
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26th, 2006 12:28 AM |
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TG;
The '92 is a very strong action, you can run pressures of at least 2x the pistol loads.
.32 Mag. loads for cast bullets would be a good starting place.
You need to slug the barrel and find the groove diameter, .001-.002" over the groove diameter will likely be necessary for accuracy.
A gas check bullet will be needed for velocities over about 1400fps.
There are plenty of good lubes, I have some White Label ,red with caranuba and it is as good as any other and 1/4 the price, Lar 45 makes it, he has a site.
Lee has a nice 311-93- 1R mold, but it is plain base, so will be limited in velocity.
The Lee C309-113-F would be a fine bullet if the barrel is small enough, has a flat nose and a gas check and is famous for accuracy.
My mold in that bullet drops wws at .311 and I could easily make you a simple reamer to increase the diameter to .315 or more. I have reamed several of my molds and sent reamers to several other people to correct small and out of round molds, not a real problem.
Also, a proper sizing die would not be a problem.
It would use regular .30 gas checks.
Let me know what the barrel is and we shall proceed from there.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 27th, 2006 11:20 AM |
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Sounds great Don..Soon as I get it back here I will slug it and go from there bud.Im leaving this Friday night and will be gone a week or so.After that I wanna get the old girl up and shooting.
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Don,I have the rifle in my posession now.How do you recomend obtaining my measurement.Like I did with the 45-70 and a rod pushing the lead bullet down the barrel?This rifle is a family heirloom and dad gave it to my son Cody so I want to be extra sure that it is not hurt in any way to do this...but Im still loadin for and shooting it...
Here is a pic of this old rifle.
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Gene, I have some load data in a TC Contender loadbook. It is for Contender only and says it is about 2x the pressure of revolver loads. Don't know if these would be appropriate or not. Contenders in .32-20 are .308 groove diameter. Data is for 90 grain lead and 90 grain lead wadcutter bullets. RD
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Hey Rocky..That would be good.I`d like to see what you have for data as the 32-20 is a new cartridge for me to load and I am interested in any data for it.Appreciate the reply..
Gene
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| Posted: Sat Jul 8th, 2006 09:49 PM |
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Gene;
I posted yesterday, but it disappeared.
Yes, use a soft lead sinker, put oil or light grease on it and use a wood dowle to drive it through the barrel.
The biggest measurement it what you go by.
The Lee manual has 3 pages of loads , 2 generic, 1 for '92's.
AA1680, AA#9, 2400, 4227, all are good powders.
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Gene, The Contender Loads for cast bullets are as follows: (Remember this is an old Contender Load Book) Do not use these in other guns!!!!!
Accurate #2 2.6 Grains 90 Grain Lead 833 FPS
2.9 Grains 90 Grain Lead 925 FPS
2.3 Grains 90 Gr. Lead WC 765 FPS
2.5 Grains 90 Gr. Lead WC 850 FPS
Accurate #5 3.6 Grains 90 Grain Lead 833 FPS
4.0 Grains 90 Grain Lead 925 FPS
There are also Jacketed Loads but none with Flat Point Bullets. I'll include that data if you wish. RD
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Don or Rocky,any of yall have info for a 115 gra hard cast bullet?Don I bought some 115 grain, .313 diameter just to see what they`d do but I don`t have any data on a bullet this heavy???
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Gene;
I have some loads, but most are for pistol, not rifle.
2400, 4227, AA 1680, even H110 are useful with a 115gr bullet.
You can use any jacketed load with a cast bullet of the same weight.
The cast bullet will give higher velocity and lower pressures than the jacketed bullet, with the same powder and weight, due to the lower resistance of the cast bullet than the jacketed bullet.
Go to handloads site and check them out.
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http://stevespages.com/312p_4_125.html
Try this link. RD
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Gene;
.32-20 is not very common, I can find very little on it, especially in .92 rifle loads.
Most is for pistols and cowboy loads.
I have this data;
100gr cast gc , AA#9, 8.5gr, 1400fps.
AA 1680/ WC 680, 15gr, 1600fps.
115gr casr gc,
2499, 11gr, 1680fps.
4227, 14gr, 1860fps.
AA 1680, 14gr, 1550fps.
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Thanks fellas.Think I am gonna use 4227.I don`t like AA powders except for AA3100 in the 270 Winchester case...
I will let ya know how I like 4227..
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Gene;
4227 is one of the best for cast loads, 4198 for heavier bullets, 2400 for about the same as 4227 and Herco and Unique/ Universal for the pop gun loads.
A load a friend uses with cast bullets is to measure the case to the base of the neck, take 40% of that volume and use that volume of Blue Dot.
He claims it works for .222 to .458 mag.
Watch your mail starting Monday.
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HEY Don..I got the bullets bud.Many thanks,I think they`ll be a winner in the little rifle.I had surgery Thursday and haven`t been able to get to town to buy some 4227.I will try to go to the gunshop Monday and get me a pound of it.I got the dies set up,got brass ready,got primers so soon as I have a pound,we`re in business.Again,many thanks for these..
Gene
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I loaded me some with 10 grains of IMR4227 and virgin Win brass..Shoots accurate,extracts easy...just one problem..It is pushing primers out of the pocket enough to bother meMy dies are set right..I am not sure what is up..I am way under a heavy pressure load
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Timber, Checked the headspace? (probably more aptly called rimspace on a rimmed cartridge) Maybe they aren't at all supprted by the bolt face and are popping out. RD
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I checked when I first loaded them RD..That is mu suspicion as well..Perhaps I overlooked something when I set up my dies.I will check them out and start over this week to see what is going on.
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