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Timberghozt
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Posted: 10 February 2007 02:41 AM |
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I have run across quite a bit of old lead fishing sinkers..Are they any good to melt down for bullets??? Or are they too soft cast by themselves without adding tin.
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Charley
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Posted: 10 February 2007 03:34 AM |
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Lead fishing sinkers are environmentaly unsound. Melting them down and casting bullets from them is the responsible thing to do. I know you will do the right thing for Mother Earth.
Some weights are alloyed, some are close to pure lead. If you can mark them with your fingernail, add some 95-5 solder to the mix, or start shooting muzzleloaders and casting roundball.
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72coupe
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Posted: 10 February 2007 02:23 PM |
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| The Mythbusters on one episode were openinig shotgun shells and melting the shot to cast muzzle loader bullets. I had to laugh.
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armoredman
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Posted: 10 February 2007 03:46 PM |
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72coupe wrote: The Mythbusters on one episode were openinig shotgun shells and melting the shot to cast muzzle loader bullets. I had to laugh.
Darn good thing they at least read the box well enough not to grab some STEEL shot...
That's really stupid - even in Kalifornia they have good muzzle loading supplies available.
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wyo300rum
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Posted: 10 February 2007 04:54 PM |
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I can't stand listening to that one peter puffer  on that show. The one wiithout the mustach . I like watching the woman on there though. I guess niether one of them do much hunting or shooting... Definitely don't reload !Last edited on 10 February 2007 04:56 PM by wyo300rum
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Timberghozt
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Posted: 13 February 2007 03:09 AM |
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I don`t know about them two dudes.
That chic with the tattoos is ok though.
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72coupe
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Posted: 13 February 2007 03:16 AM |
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| That girl is great. Think about it. Walking out the door to go to work saying, hey honey fabricate me 12 widgets for my reloading setup will you. When you get home there are 12 well thought out and carefully constructed widgets just waiting for you.
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wyo300rum
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Posted: 14 February 2007 05:00 PM |
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| I think the dude with the handlebar looking mustach is the pitcher and the other is the catcher.
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buffybr
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Posted: 19 December 2007 06:17 AM |
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Lead fishing sinkers are environmentaly unsound. Melting them down and casting bullets from them is the responsible thing to do. I know you will do the right thing for Mother Earth.
Charlie, I'm hoping you were 'tongue in cheek' when you wrote this. I get so upset with the environmentally correct and their war against lead. Lead is a natural element found in nature. Galena (lead sulfide) crystals are not uncommon in the rocky mountains. When I grew up, our toothpaste tubes were made of lead. I never heard of any of my friends (or not friends) eating windows or walls painted with lead based paint. I never knew there was a danger of lead based paint until the wizzards in Washington enlightened us.
The rocket scientists in Yellowstone National Park have banned lead fishing weights for years because some fish or duck might swallow a lead fishing weight among the billions of grains of sand and other small rocks on the bottom of the stream or lake, then a bald eagle might eat that fish or duck and the eagle might die from the little piece of lead in it's dinner. Galena crystals are also found naturally in the mountains in Yellowstone. Now that muscle brain in California has used this same (il)logic to ban lead bullets in parts of that state under the guise of protecting the Condors.
Back to the original question, most fishing weights are essentially pure lead. Theie use doesn't need expensive alloys to make them hard. Melted fishing weights make good traditional muzzle loading bullets, but are generally too soft, without adding tin, for centerfire rifle or pistol bullets.
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Charley
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Posted: 19 December 2007 12:43 PM |
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buffybr wrote: Lead fishing sinkers are environmentaly unsound. Melting them down and casting bullets from them is the responsible thing to do. I know you will do the right thing for Mother Earth.
Charlie, I'm hoping you were 'tongue in cheek' when you wrote this. I get so upset with the environmentally correct and their war against lead. Lead is a natural element found in nature. Galena (lead sulfide) crystals are not uncommon in the rocky mountains. When I grew up, our toothpaste tubes were made of lead. I never heard of any of my friends (or not friends) eating windows or walls painted with lead based paint. I never knew there was a danger of lead based paint until the wizzards in Washington enlightened us.
The rocket scientists in Yellowstone National Park have banned lead fishing weights for years because some fish or duck might swallow a lead fishing weight among the billions of grains of sand and other small rocks on the bottom of the stream or lake, then a bald eagle might eat that fish or duck and the eagle might die from the little piece of lead in it's dinner. Galena crystals are also found naturally in the mountains in Yellowstone. Now that muscle brain in California has used this same (il)logic to ban lead bullets in parts of that state under the guise of protecting the Condors.
Back to the original question, most fishing weights are essentially pure lead. Theie use doesn't need expensive alloys to make them hard. Melted fishing weights make good traditional muzzle loading bullets, but are generally too soft, without adding tin, for centerfire rifle or pistol bullets.
I'm dead serious. Lead belongs in range backstops, not the water. If you fol;ks will send me all your lead (please send enough funds with it to cover shipping), I'll convert it to bullets and be sure they are disposed of in an environmentaly responsible manner.
For God's sake, I'm kidding!
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SCSlim
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Posted: 2 June 2008 03:52 AM |
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| Burrying lead 6-12 inches deep into a berm is sufficient to prevent inadvertent exposure. If you don't like digging in berms, lead can be made to bury itself, if it's properly coaxed. I bet I've coaxed near a ton of it into various berms and hillsides over the years. It stays put pretty good (unless you dig it out and melt it down again).
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Posted: 30 August 2008 04:00 PM |
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When I was 19, I acquired a junky old .36 Navy Colt clone in a trade. I didn't have a ready supply or source for lead round balls at first, so I used split shot and/or fishing sinkers of an appropriate diameter. They worked OK - I was able to shoot them, although accuracy wasn't that great. Neither was the gun, so I didn't worry about it.
I didn't have a regular supply of black powder back then either, so I sometimes used paper matchheads for propellant. A dozen or so would throw a split shot "round" downrange out of that .36 Navy at a pretty good clip. It's interesting what can be improvised when the need arises.
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