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For both of my muzzle loaders, I want to use some black powder. I am still looking for a local supplier, but how you store your BP. I knwo it is an explosive and not like modern powder.
Any special precautions?
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Rule #1: Never check powder level in can with a match.
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Not really any different to store bp than smokeless. Keep it someplace fairly stable temp and dry
 And not in the closet with the gas water heater or furnace.
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I keep mine in the legendary cool, dry, place.
And keep the lid on...tightly!
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My reloading area is what used to be the garage under the house, so no heat sources. It is all walled off from the rest of the house and the the exterior walls have 1 inch foam insulation on them.
Plus I am a man of the 21st Century, I don't use a match I use a BIC lighter.
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Jerry I do NOT store "Black Powder" in my home or garage OK....just to blessed dangerous. I used to store the BP in official navy aluminum canisters with screw down lids. I kept these in a small building 50 yards behind the house, locked in an old freezer and pad lock on the door of the building. No one accessed that building but myself. It was on the other side of a bared wire fence to boot, you had to go through another locked gate to reach the building.
Most people don't take "black powder" serious enough, I had several friends of mine almost lose their lives, when a pound of BP went off sitting on the kitchen table of the owners home. Some shooters lost eyesight and hearing too. They were loading cap and ball pistols at the time. I was late that day or I would have been involved no doubt.
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I once had a can of Black powder that I misplaced the cap for when filling my powder measure. I set the can back on a closet shelf with out the lid thinking I'd have to get down on my hands and knees and look under the table etc. Something interrupted me and I forgot to look for the lid and seal the can. In the meantime evidently our house cat jumped up on the shelf and tipped over the can dumping about a cup of powder out of the can and onto the floor. My MIL was visiting and helping with spring cleaning. She saw this "dirt" on the closet floor and swept it up and put it in a trash bag with a bunch of paper scraps. We had a 55 gal burn barrel in the back yard and I was carrying out old newspapers etc for burning. I had a pretty good fire going when I unknowingly took the gunpowder bag out to the barrel. As I swung it over the top to drop it in there was a hefty explosion. I lost my eyebrows and eyelashes and most of the hair sticking out under my cap. Although my eyes hurt like hell my vision was luckily OK. The explosion completely snuffed out the fire. I thought at first that someone had put an aerosol can in the trash but then could smell the powder smoke. I went to the closet and found the half empty can laying on it's side. Since then I've been very careful with black powder or it's substitutes. RD
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Store mine in a wooden closet. No chance of a spark there?!?!?
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TONK wrote: Jerry I do NOT store "Black Powder" in my home or garage OK....just to blessed dangerous. I used to store the BP in official navy aluminum canisters with screw down lids. I kept these in a small building 50 yards behind the house, locked in an old freezer and pad lock on the door of the building. No one accessed that building but myself. It was on the other side of a bared wire fence to boot, you had to go through another locked gate to reach the building.
Most people don't take "black powder" serious enough, I had several friends of mine almost lose their lives, when a pound of BP went off sitting on the kitchen table of the owners home. Some shooters lost eyesight and hearing too. They were loading cap and ball pistols at the time. I was late that day or I would have been involved no doubt.
Time out here bud. Somebody did something really really ignorant to get that pound of bp to go off "just sitting there on the kitchen table" Powder doesn't just ignite itself. And what in the world were they doing loading guns inside a house?
Being cautious with any open cans of powder, or exposed powder is a real good idea. But I'm of the mind that you may be just a tad hysterical about it.
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Who's BUD? Well now, I had heard it was static electricity that set off that pound of black powder sitting inside a large bowl on the kitchen table. The kitchen floor had carpet wall to wall. I can't tell you why they were loading guns inside the house, only that they were shooting them off the backporch at various targets set up in the backyard.
I suppose they were a bit lacks in proper loading procedure! I am just glad I was not there when it happened. Most of those fellows got their sight back and some still suffered hearing loss to some degree. I figured that I myself didn't need to have any of the "black powder" inside my home period.
Ranch 13.....Now just so you know, I have not been hysterical about one blessed thing in my entire life savvy.
Now just so you get the real picture, I own half a dozen black powder rifles and we do shoot them on a regular basis. We use both types of powder understand.
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TONK wrote: Who's BUD? Well now, I had heard it was static electricity that set off that pound of black powder sitting inside a large bowl on the kitchen table. The kitchen floor had carpet wall to wall. I can't tell you why they were loading guns inside the house, only that they were shooting them off the backporch at various targets set up in the backyard.
I suppose they were a bit lacks in proper loading procedure! I am just glad I was not there when it happened. Most of those fellows got their sight back and some still suffered hearing loss to some degree. I figured that I myself didn't need to have any of the "black powder" inside my home period.
Ranch 13.....Now just so you know, I have not been hysterical about one blessed thing in my entire life savvy.
Now just so you get the real picture, I own half a dozen black powder rifles and we do shoot them on a regular basis. We use both types of powder understand.
http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/ctml_experiments/sparks/sparks.htmlThis link may interest you.
I've been shooting bp for the best part of 40 years. Never have had any of it go off unless it was intentionally exposed to spark or flame. I currently shoot 10-25 lbs of the stuff a year.
The example of your friends having a bit of problem was due to some one did something totally ignorant otherwise a spark would not have got into that can of powder.
I'm sticking with my hysterical statement. Caution is wise with any powder, but your stated treatment of bp is abit over the top. Several of the smokeless powders we use are probably more of a danger than bp.
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Ranch 13.....I'll try to be polite about this savvy!
Now when you show me your degree from medical school, I will perhaps pay a bit more attention to your statement concerning my readeric about storing BP and my mental stability understand.
Now just so you get the picture Pal, I been reloading since the very early 60's and own and shoot over half dozen black powder guns. I sir, fully understand the precautions one should take with any combustionable material such as Black Powder. NO Fire Department is going to say "YES" to storing Black Powder in your home. 
Now you can take this bit of information and put it where it suits you best. Knowledge is the "Key" to all closed doors.
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Tonk what did you think about the static link
I'm sure you know, that Goex is petitioning the ATFE for a class change with sporting grade black powder, to get it listed to the same propellant level as smokeless, because of extensive testing they have found bp to be no more hazardous to store and ship than smokeless.
Use all the bluster and fuss at me you want. The fact still remains your friends did something really super ignorant to set that pound of powder off on the kitchen table.
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Ranch 13....I make NO assumptions as to what the ATF might do, I have no knowledge of their behavor period on such topics.
Now as far as my friends of over 40 years ago are concerned, yes I will conceive that they should have never been loading pistols in the kitchen and walking outside on that back porch to then discharge them.
I heard static electricity set off that powder, at least that was what the newspaper's stated. I don't really know and I am positive what I do know about BP would not have made any difference.
Flustered? Now what ever gave you that idea?
Now hear this and let it sink DEEP into your mind set!
Safety & Caution can never be lacks and should always be to the highest degree period, no matter what the subject matter might be that day.
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Spell check would tell you that in the context you're trying to write , Lacks would be spelled lax.
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kinda makes me think someone was smokin
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Before or after it went up?
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BOTH!!
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Sort of have to wonder if the stuff they were smokin before they got smoked was legal in any place other than California or Holland.
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pound of black powder sitting inside a large bowl on the kitchen table....Hmmm. Igenerally will keep in original container, pour into powder dropper. Drop into powder measure. I have had about 70grns blow when poured into hot barrel though. Live and learn.
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