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This picture is somewhat blurred, but it's one of my favorite .45 caliber big bore cast bullets. It's a Lyman # 462560 552 Gr. Gas Check design. This mold is no longer manufactured by Lyman, but it's one of the best in this size they've ever produced. I found this mold in a small local gun shop in the early 70's, and it was a 4 cavity to boot. I have loaded this bullet in all my .45 cal big bores. In my 2 .458's they will group around an inch with 65 grains of IMR 3031. This is a compressed load that requires slow and careful bullet seating, but the results are well worth it. I have also loaded it in both my Marlin Guide Gun in .45-70, as well as my Magnum Research BFR Revolver in the same caliber. In my .460 Weatherby Mark V, it makes a real nice practice load. Thats a loaded .44 Magnum round next to it for comparision. billt
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24th, 2005 07:50 PM |
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What kind of alloy are you using Billt? seems like that Weatherby would melt it before it left the barrel.
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I generally cast these out of Linotype with about 10% lead that has a 5% Antimony content. They drop from the mold a little lighter than 552 Gr. this way, but are substantially harder. I load the .460 Weatherby in the 60+ Gr. range with IMR 3031, much the same as both my .458's. It's a nice "shootable" load in that gun. One thing I learned is to not let the barrel heat up too much. This will help in keeping leading to a minimum. If shot on a dry day that slug will kick up a really nice dust cloud when it hits the backstop! billt
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Hey billt.I am still planning on buying me a lever action chambered in 45LC...Would that cast bullet you make be good for a whitetail?Pardon the ignorance,I dont know jack$*** about cast bullets or how they perform on an animal..
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Timberghozt,
If your planning to purchase a Lever gun in .45 Colt the 552 Gr. slug would be much too large to launch from a .45 Colt rifle. In your case a bullet that I have found to be almost ideal is this 325 Gr. Gas Check from Lyman. This is bullet # 452651. Here is a photo of it. It's the one on the left. In the center is a loaded 230 Gr. .45 Automatic cartridge for comparision, on the right is the 552 Gr. Lyman slug that was mentioned in your post. billt
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Timberghozt,
This is a photo of my Winchester Model 94 Trapper in .45 Colt caliber. If your considering buying a nice handling short carbine in this caliber, this one is damn hard to beat. It will launch cast slugs with the best of them. Another good choice would be the Marlin Cowboy Model in the same caliber if you wished for a little more barrel length. billt
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Timberghozt,
This is a picture of a 8 shot group fired at 50 yards with my Winchester Model 94 Trapper in .45 Colt. As noted, this group was fired with Sierra 240 Gr. Jacketed Bullets, however this gun will group just as well, or even better with the large 325 Gr. Lyman cast bullet I photographed above. This group was fired with the standard iron sights the gun came with. The group was fired by my wife Melanie. billt
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Hey Bill, thanks for the tips on the bullets and rifles.Two rifles I looked at were the Puma and a Henry.The Henry was sweet..I don`t really need a 45LC but it would be fun for close range deer hunting..
Great shooting from your wife !!!
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What ever you do, do not let your wife hear you say you do not need something!
2 good starters that are inexpensive are the 252gr swc and the 300gr rfn gc from Lee molds. Just use free ww's for metal.
Both would do well for plinking and deer within 100 yds or so, after that distance, all the big and fairly slow rounds drop like rocks, even though they will still make big holes in critters well past 100yds, it is just hard to figure a shot when the bullet drops 6-12 ' at 300 yds.
I lovingly refer to my .44-40 and .45-70s as mortars.
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lol..Drinks.Will do on not ever letting her hear me say such blasphemy as "I `DON`T NEED THAT RIFLE". It`d sure be fun to hunt with one of those old cartridges and a roll your own bullet..
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That's quite a bullet BillT. A 4 cavity? It's safe to say you empty that pot real fast. 
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Timberghozt wrote: Hey billt.I am still planning on buying me a lever action chambered in 45LC...Would that cast bullet you make be good for a whitetail?Pardon the ignorance,I dont know jack$*** about cast bullets or how they perform on an animal..
Gene
I bought a Rossi Stainless Steel Model 92 45 Colt (16 in barrel) at the last gun show. No reason, I just wanted it. I took it to the range with some cowboy loads (250 gr) and had at it at 50 yards. It's a real sweetie. Even with my old eyes and open sights (and not real good ones) it kept 10 in about 2 inches. At 100 yards I shot 3 rounds and my brother called a complete miss of the paper (2'x3'). When going to take down targets, I found a 5 inch group almost dead on the 2" bull. I was impressed. I crony'd all 10 rounds at a very consistant 980 fps. I wouldn't try it at 100 yards with a big buck, but a nice little doe around 85 pounds...yea. It'll make meat.
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