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 Posted: Mon Sep 12th, 2005 06:59 PM
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I've been reloading at a basic level for a few years now, but would like to go into it a little deeper. Can anybody recommend a good book that covers things like run out, weighing cases ect?

Aparently the 10th Edition of the Sinclair reloading manual is supposedly very good for this, but is now out of print and finding a used one is proving difficult especially as I am in the UK...

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If you can find P.O. Ackleys books they-re great.  Try amazon or half.com on the web for books.  In addition some of the loading manuels get into it pretty good.



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i picked up a book way back when i stared to reload called the a.b.c's of reloading.. this was from the same people that put out the shooters bible... it has just about everything on reloading... i still read after about 30 some years....



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Midway carries a reloading book by Richard Lee. It is really involved, and may be THE book for cast lead bullets. I have reloaded since 1976, and it was a great read for me.



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I agree with Mickey.Richard Lee produced one of the better reloading manuals of all time.I also like Sierras how to section in their manual.David Tubb also wrote a book on reloading for competition that is supposed to be good but I haven`t personally read it...



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I'll take a look at Richard Lee's book again..I have seen it before but never really paid too much attention to it as i was worried it would be full of Lee's advertizing hype; I mean the stuff they dish out about their products...

I have a 9.3x62mm and want to start casting bullets for that..I have most of the kit and a couple of buckets of wheel weights set aside, I just need to slug the barrel and then order a mould..I think its a project for next summer though..

Right now i want to learn more about things like run out, CHE and PRE ect and establish whether neck turning is a  worth while process for a rifle with a standard factory chamber...

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Pete E:

Read Lee's Manual. It even goes into how to figure how hard to cast for what speed. It is a definitive work on cast bullets.



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Another very good loading manual is Pet Loads by Ken Waters. It's one of the more expensive loading manuals out there, but it's one I wouldn't be without. I always buy all the new manuals because there so many new cartridges and powders coming out. Right now I'm waiting for my Sportsmans Wearhouse to get the new 3rd Edition of Lyman's Pistol & Revolver Handbook in. It's supposed to have a lot of loads for the new .500 Smith & Wesson Magnum. It's starting to cool off here and I'm going to be firing up my big bores soon. I'll be looking foward to checking out all the new data.  billt.



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This is something a lot of guys on the board might be intrested in.  http://www.loaddata.com    I haven't signed up but I think I'm going to. It's only $24.95 and there are over 84,000 loads in it, and it's updated all the time. You get the binder, then all you have to do is print out the loads you want. It's nice because you can create a "custom loading manual" just for the calibers that you yourself shoot. If you think about it you don't use 70% of whats in most manuals because none of us shoot all the calibers in existance. This keeps to just what you want. For the price I think I'll roll the dice. Besides, most of us spend more than that on a subscription to a couple of gun rags.  billt.



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Is the book by Richard Lee the ABC of Reloading or is it Lee's standard Reloading Manual? I saw both at the weekend but both were sealed so i could'nt have a browse before buying...

Idid buy a copy of the "Complete Reloading Guide" by John & Robert Traister though..It's not bad, especially if you're a complete novice in certain areas, but I think I will still get at least a couple of other books..

.Just wish I could find a used copy of Sinclair 10th Edition Reloading Manual or maybe Tubbs book..

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Modern Reloading, by Richard Lee, is the book I spoke of. It is very informative. It has a lot of lead bulllet loads for center fire rifles.



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Micky,

Thanks for that..

I would like to try casting for my 9.3x62 as I think that with heavier bullets, the velocity range for cast bullets will overlap the velocity range for jacketed factory ammo...

I have most of the kit I need except the actual moulds which i think will need to be a custom job for this particular calibre. I am stil a little hazy on a lot of the detail concerning casting such as the use of gas checks ect, so i should find that  book very helpful...

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Pete,

I would look at casting my own. I had to get a mold for my 43 Spanish (439 diameter...the ONLY one that size ever). Casting is quite easy. I always used wheel weights.

What diameter & weight does the 9.3x62 take?



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Mickey,

The 9.3 is a nominal .366 calibre with the case being very simlar to the 30-06..In fact you can think of it as the .35 Whelen on steriods! As far as bullet weights goes, its very versitile as it can be loaded with bullets from 235grain to 320grain although 250grain, 270grain and 286grn are the popular weights. Loaded with a 250grain bullet, it has about the same velocity as many of the 250grn .338Win mag factory loads...once you starting using the heavier bullets your down to around 2200fps I would guess...

I have already scavanged about three buckets full of wheel weights..I think next I need to slug the bore and then order a suitable custom mold...

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http://www.buffaloarms.com/browse.cfm/2,310.html

$80.00 for 3 different .366 moulds. They also carry jacketed   bullets 193 gr FNSP for $26.30/50.

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Micky,

Thanks for that, the  250grn mould looks very interesting...I did find some other else offering custom moulds at a similar price and put the details "safe" somewhere, if you know what I mean :rolleyes:

Just a general question...when folks quote a weight with their moulds, is that the weight of bullet  if pure lead is  used? I ask as I assume that if you use a lead alloy of some sort the bullets will be lighter?

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That is correct. The listed weight is usually pure lead. Wheel weights usually are just a bit lighter. My "150" grain 308's were 147 gr 309. I was always too lazy to size them much.



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That is correct. The listed weight is usually pure lead. Wheel weights usually are just a bit lighter. My "150" grain 308's were 147 gr 309. I was always too lazy to size them much.



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Pete;

The current Lee book is "Modern Reloading, Second Edition".

Mountain Molds is the custom mold maker that is affordable, $60, about L40, for a single cavity mold, you go to his web site, mountainmolds.com, sign in , and actually design your molds on line with the software program he has.

Lee, Lyman, RCBS and Saeco do not have any 9.3 molds, 9mm[.358] and 9.5[.375] are fairly common here, but 9.3mm is just not used much in America.

The 9x63, .35 Whelen , is a bit faster tham the 9.3x57 and the 9.3x62 and uses about the same weight bullets and is a factory load here, so it gets all the play in the U.S.:cool:



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Drinks,

I would be interested to hear what velocity a 250 grain bullet achieves in either a .35 Whellan or the AI version..

I am not talking about what some folks get by loading it up to the very max and with a 26" tube, but whats is a realistic expectation?

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