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Pete;
My H&R handirifle does have a 26" barrel, so my results may be a bit more than shorter barrels.
I do not have any 250gr bullets,just no need for that heavy a bullet. Lee shows both jacketed and cast 250gr bullets at 2500 + - fps, and I believe these were from 24" barrels.
I have a 158gr cast gas check swc, with waterdropped alloy at BHN 25, I have shot it at 2400fps with no leading, although I load it to about 1600fps just for a plinking and small game load.
Next is a 214gr rn gas check, again waterdropped alloy at BHN 25, get 2450 fps , no problems and recoil is not bad, even in a 7lb rifle.
Then I have a 200 gr, Rem. PSP corelock, cheapest jacketed bullet available, about $12 per 100.
This I have shot at 2750 fps and it was not a max load.
I really like the .35 Whelen, it likes everything I have tried, has some impressive energy figures and is not hard on my old shoulder.
Phil Lozano had a client bring one along on safari and he was very taken with the .35 Whelen.
I know of a person with a 9.3x62 and he has had about the same results I have with the Whelen, although, he did say the 300's at 2200 were giving him a headache.
I really feel the .35-9.3 and 9.5 are all really well suited for cast bullets.
Lee shows the 9.3x62 with 258gr bullet as having a max load speed of 2500fps.
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Drinks,
thanks for that..
The 9.3x62mm made its name with the 286grain bullet over in Africa..Its the somewhat unfashionable (today) forumla of a heavy for calibre bullet at a moderate velocity..I don't see why the Whelen shouldn't work equally as well...
I have tried a .338Win Mag and didn't like the recoil and find even with the 286grains my 9.3 is more pleasant to shoot. I haven't tried the 300 or 320 grains bullets, but would imagine they might be "interesting" recoil wise!
I think if I lived in the States and wanted an Elk and/or Bear cartridge it would be a toss up between the Whelen and the 9.3x62mm although the 9.3 might be difficult to get ammo or components for in certain places...
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Pete
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Pete;
I do not know of a source for 9.3x57 or 62 ammo, that may change soon, a major importer of used rifles has brought a number of scandinavian 9.3 x57 and 62 rifles in to the US, some times this results in a flurry of dies and bullets after a year or so, when enough people ask for them.
I would be content to hunt from small deer, 100lb or less, to moose and Kodiak bears and bison with a .35 Whelen and selected loads, we have jacketed bullets from 150gr, with thin jackets, to 300plus gr in most any shape and style, actually, the 200gr cast or jacketed should do for all the animals here.
Just hard to better 8 and 9mm rifles.
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Drinks,
If you have any information on who that importer is, I know some guys over there who might be interested...
I've not looked into the situation with the 9.3x57, but Redding do off-the-shelf dies for the 9.3x62mm and bullets are available from Nosler, Barnes (including the TSX) Speer, A Square and I think Swift, to name a few American companies..Then you have the European sources such as Lapua, Norma and RWS, so the situation is not as bad as it used to be.
Over in RSA its still a reasonably popular round and some of their local company's do both loaded ammo and components.
You can also form the brass from 30-06 cases, but you loose a grain or two's capacity so I been told...I often wonder whether the .35 Whelen owes anything of its origin to the 9.3x62mm as its possible that either Howe or Whelen had come across it and "Americanised" it so to speak??? I have not seen anything in writing to support this idea, but the 9.3x62mm does predate the .35 Whelen by about 15 or 20 years...
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Pete
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Pete;
Sarco Inc. is the US importer of a bunch of scandanivian rifles and shotguns, the current issue of shotgun news is the version that has almost all display ads and few classifieds, the next issue should have the classifieds back again.
The 9.3x57 seems to be about the same as the .358 Win. and we have the .35 Rem., which is about the same level as the .30-30, maybe a bit more fpe, and of course, it has a bigger bullet to start with.
My original intent with cast in the Whelen was to somewhat improve on.35 Rem. loads, quickly found that I could do better than .358 Win. and essentially equal all but the hottest .35 Whelen loads with jacketed bullets.
A very versatile caliber, from .357mag. to .35 Whelen in the one rifle, just change bullets and powders.
I have not tried it, but several posters have tried jacketed pistol bullets and got well over 3000fps, of course, they are thinly jacketed and would be for coyotes or foxes, or even prairie dogs, too risky to use on deer, hit a major bone and it might explode with out penetrating.
I do not believe Col. Whelen had anything to do with the design, it was just named after him by the designer.
Don
ps; You know when a cartridge has made a real showing when Lee has dies and at least 1 mold for it.Last edited on Mon Oct 3rd, 2005 04:16 PM by drinks
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