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I've used a bunch of different priming tools over the years. From one-at-a-time dropping 'em into the priming cup on a CH single-stage press, through the auto-prime rigs on Dillons, to RCBS and Lee hand tools.
The Dillon is great for some handgun rounds, but I do not like it for rifles, preferring a slightly slower, more contemplative process. The Lee and RCBS hand tools have not been completely satisfactory either: they seem to get out of adjustment easily, bind up, jam primers, etc.
I just ordered an RCBS bench-mount tool from MidWay (about $80) which is due to arrive t'row. Anybody use one of these? I'm looking forward to trying it and hope it is what I have been looking for!
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If you have not tried the new RCBS Universal hand primer (with the square tray), I heartily suggest it! It has a universal shell holder, and the square tray is easier to load and feeds better from the corner than round trays do. I started with the Lee autoprime, and switched to the universal.
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I also have used almost every priming tool like Lee, RCBS with the round tray, but never got the feeling, these were what I really wanted, most of all RCBS dissapointed me, because they managed to ruin a very good concept by using a plastic seater liner which causes the priming ram to go off center very easy.
I don't reload pistol ammo anymore, so bulk loading is not an issue,and finally I am really happy with a Sinclair- and a precision reloading priming tool which I bought from K & S.
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My RCBS bench-mount priming tool arrived today. (Midway has the best shipping in the business.) Seems very sturdy, with a nice, simple design. Of course, I had to try it out. Primed half a dozen .308 cases with it. (Tumbling more as I type!) Works as advertised, but I am going to have to get used to the feel of it. There is not nearly the tactile feedback (i.e., resistance) you get from a Lee or RCBS handtool. You have gobs of leverage. I'll have to learn how to get the "feel" for the machine. I do like the way it is made: to last! (Couldn't find a "Made in China" sticker on it anywhere.)
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I found the same problem with the RCBS primer seater, brought it back to the store, traded for a Hornady seater, used it for a while and brought it back because it was too hard to operate with arthritis in my hands. Back to the old Lee, which has never failed me. I guess you know the Ritis family; there's arthur, neph, and the baddest of all, their sister uretha. good shooting.
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i like to use the lee auto prime for seating primers.. it seems i can feel the primer hit bottom every time with it..
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RCBS hand priming tool, like the 'feel' of it. I know that's not a very accurate way of describing something (by feel), but that's how I seat my primers.
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sdb777 schreef: RCBS hand priming tool, like the 'feel' of it. I know that's not a very accurate way of describing something (by feel), but that's how I seat my primers.
Scott () B
This exactly the way I seat primers too.
Therefore I think it is a pity that RCBS a very good tool like the one with the round tray, which gives one a good deal of this feeling has spoiled by using plastic on a crucial place which makes the alignment of the seater ram a doubtful affaire.
The ones I use now have steel liners and no radial play on the seater rams, but one seems to get this only on a non reservoir seater.
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The RCBS bench-mounted priming tool (catalog # 09460) has steel liners for the primer rams. It also has a tube feed. When applying pressure to the ram, thru the long steel lever, the tube feed is flipped back away from the case being primed.
As far as "feel" is concerned, the lever on the tool is so long that it provides a great deal of leverage. It has to be used slowly and gently in order to achieve that "feel" that is so important in the priming operation.
So far I am pleased with the RCBS tool.
BTW, the only plastic on it anywhere is the pick-up tip on the primer tube.
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Dirtkicker schreef: the only plastic on it anywhere is the pick-up tip on the primer tube.
That is more than enough plastic on a tool, exept , perhaps, for a knob at the end of a handle.
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Paul Tummers wrote:
Dirtkicker schreef: the only plastic on it anywhere is the pick-up tip on the primer tube.
That is more than enough plastic on a tool, exept , perhaps, for a knob at the end of a handle.
Paul.
Well, since the pick-up tip needs to flex in order to accept the primer, I'm willing to give a pass to that much plastic. May you never need an advanced medical implant!
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Dirtkicker schreef: Paul Tummers wrote:
Dirtkicker schreef: the only plastic on it anywhere is the pick-up tip on the primer tube.
That is more than enough plastic on a tool, exept , perhaps, for a knob at the end of a handle.
Paul.
Well, since the pick-up tip needs to flex in order to accept the primer, I'm willing to give a pass to that much plastic. May you never need an advanced medical implant!
You have a point there!
What I mean to say is, that a lot of good designed tools are spoiled by the use of plastics which reduce the life span considerably.
I may be somewhat old fashioned in this matter.
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Yes, first they make the metal cheaper, then thinner, then they start to figure ways to use plastic instead of metal. None of those tricks seem to have been employed on this priming tool, however. I expect to have it for a long, long time.
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Dirtkicker schreef: Yes, first they make the metal cheaper, then thinner, then they start to figure ways to use plastic instead of metal. None of those tricks seem to have been employed on this priming tool, however. I expect to have it for a long, long time.
If you can take it apart, do so, clean very well, also the drilled holes, and use a premium grade teflon grease to lubricate all friction points and bearings which do not come into direct contact with the primers.
Good luck!
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New guy here -
I use the RCBS bench mount primer you recently purchased. It fits my reloading style very nicely, one at a time, each one examined and fit to the press. I like it and will eventually add a second one to keep from having to change from the large rifle shaft to the small rifle primer shaft. As far as feel goes, you will develop a sense of a good seat like on the Posi-Prime hand tool. I'm sure you rake your thumb over the seated primer as you pull the case from the tool to ensure seating depth is below the case. It's all pretty straight forward.
Like I mentioned, I also use the Posi-Prime it doesn't have a primer tray attachment (great for reloading at the range), the primers on my press(es) (My benchis outfitted with two Redding Ultramags). the Lee Hand Primer I had was kind of sloppy and I gave it away. When at the bench I go directly to the bench mount tool.
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flashhole schreef: New guy here -
I use the RCBS bench mount primer you recently purchased. It fits my reloading style very nicely, one at a time, each one examined and fit to the press. I like it and will eventually add a second one to keep from having to change from the large rifle shaft to the small rifle primer shaft. As far as feel goes, you will develop a sense of a good seat like on the Posi-Prime hand tool. I'm sure you rake your thumb over the seated primer as you pull the case from the tool to ensure seating depth is below the case. It's all pretty straight forward.
Like I mentioned, I also use the Posi-Prime it doesn't have a primer tray attachment (great for reloading at the range), the primers on my press(es) (My benchis outfitted with two Redding Ultramags). the Lee Hand Primer I had was kind of sloppy and I gave it away. When at the bench I go directly to the bench mount tool. Wen I have the feeling, I might need to load some cases at the range, I take a 25 prepped and primed cases with me, along with my Culver, the Dillon scale and the Lyman 310 tool(Very old, still made from steel), which performs outstanding.
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Paul Tummers wrote: flashhole schreef: New guy here -
I use the RCBS bench mount primer you recently purchased. It fits my reloading style very nicely, one at a time, each one examined and fit to the press. I like it and will eventually add a second one to keep from having to change from the large rifle shaft to the small rifle primer shaft. As far as feel goes, you will develop a sense of a good seat like on the Posi-Prime hand tool. I'm sure you rake your thumb over the seated primer as you pull the case from the tool to ensure seating depth is below the case. It's all pretty straight forward.
Like I mentioned, I also use the Posi-Prime it doesn't have a primer tray attachment (great for reloading at the range), the primers on my press(es) (My benchis outfitted with two Redding Ultramags). the Lee Hand Primer I had was kind of sloppy and I gave it away. When at the bench I go directly to the bench mount tool. Wen I have the feeling, I might need to load some cases at the range, I take a 25 prepped and primed cases with me, along with my Culver, the Dillon scale and the Lyman 310 tool(Very old, still made from steel), which performs outstanding. What's a Culver?
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flashhole schreef: Paul Tummers wrote: flashhole schreef: New guy here -
I use the RCBS bench mount primer you recently purchased. It fits my reloading style very nicely, one at a time, each one examined and fit to the press. I like it and will eventually add a second one to keep from having to change from the large rifle shaft to the small rifle primer shaft. As far as feel goes, you will develop a sense of a good seat like on the Posi-Prime hand tool. I'm sure you rake your thumb over the seated primer as you pull the case from the tool to ensure seating depth is below the case. It's all pretty straight forward.
Like I mentioned, I also use the Posi-Prime it doesn't have a primer tray attachment (great for reloading at the range), the primers on my press(es) (My benchis outfitted with two Redding Ultramags). the Lee Hand Primer I had was kind of sloppy and I gave it away. When at the bench I go directly to the bench mount tool. Wen I have the feeling, I might need to load some cases at the range, I take a 25 prepped and primed cases with me, along with my Culver, the Dillon scale and the Lyman 310 tool(Very old, still made from steel), which performs outstanding. What's a Culver?
Actually it is a Bruno Culver type powder measure. Culver was famous for upgrading the Lyman powder measure by offering precision made measuring cylinders with a reliable micro-adjustment wich could reproduce every time a set charge without checking.
Culver went that far that he delivered a list with settings for much used powder charges for a lot of powders with the measure insert.
Ik you run into one of these original Culver inserts, preferably with the original powder list,buy it, they are almost worth their weight in gold these days!
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Dirtkicker schreef: My RCBS bench-mount priming tool arrived today. (Midway has the best shipping in the business.) Seems very sturdy, with a nice, simple design. Of course, I had to try it out. Primed half a dozen .308 cases with it. (Tumbling more as I type!) Works as advertised, but I am going to have to get used to the feel of it. There is not nearly the tactile feedback (i.e., resistance) you get from a Lee or RCBS handtool. You have gobs of leverage. I'll have to learn how to get the "feel" for the machine. I do like the way it is made: to last! (Couldn't find a "Made in China" sticker on it anywhere.)
I got the same tool delivered yesterday, took it apart, turned some bronze shims for the priming arm and the lever which had some play, now neither of them can touch the aluminium main body anymore, cleaned it and greased it properly, it indeed does work very well, and I can feel the primer touching the bottom of the primer pocket very well, primed a 50 .222 cases with it.
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