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bea175
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I purchased the Lee Crimping die for my 45-70 so i would have a seperate die just for crimping. Has anyone used this die for their crimping needs and is it really that much better than the regular crimping die that comes with the die set? I guess i will find out when i get around to useing it. 
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| Posted: Fri May 13th, 2005 01:57 PM |
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I don't have a factory crimp die for the .45-70 yet, but have them for several others. I like them, gives a good uniform crimp. Speer says not to use them with their bullets, but I do and it works fine.
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| Posted: Fri May 13th, 2005 02:11 PM |
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I only crimp pistol and lever gun ammo because of recoil and the magizine pushing on the bullet in the lever action.
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| Posted: Sat May 14th, 2005 10:58 AM |
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bea175,
I have the Lee Factory Crimp Die in .45-70, and many other calibers as well. I just purchased one in 8 MM Mauser and used it to handload 500 rounds and it worked beautifully. You cannot buckle a case with these dies because it puts only lateral pressure on the case. The shellholder presses a collet with 4 split sections into the case at the case mouth. I've heard they will make them in custom calibers. I'm thinking about getting one for my .500 S&W Mag. Once you use these dies you'll want one in every caliber you reload for. They are very inexpensive, and work extremly well. billt
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| Posted: Sat May 14th, 2005 06:13 PM |
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I loaded 50, 45-70 rounds with 47 gr of IMR 4198 and the Hornady 300 gr HP , Fed Gold Metal 210 primers. I used the Lee Crimping die and it worked perfect, without belling the case with the very heavy crimp i used on these loads. I like having the crimp die seperate from the seating die.
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| Posted: Sat May 14th, 2005 10:22 PM |
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I got the Lee collet die a couple weeks ago, as I was not really happy with the roll crimp the factory die set made.
It does fine, less working of the case mouth.
I seat and crimp in seperate operations anyway, if nothing else, back the combination seat-crimp dies out a couple of turns to seat and then run the seater way back and adjust down for the crimp.
I shoot almost all cast bullets and do not like the shaving that goes on with seating and crimping in one stroke.
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| Posted: Sat May 14th, 2005 10:56 PM |
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I have never crimped and seated in the same stroke. Most of my carbide pistol dies are 4 die sets with the crimping die seperate.
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| Posted: Sun May 15th, 2005 09:03 PM |
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I have a lee crimp die for every caliber that I load for , I think their is someplace around 52-55 crimp dies in the gun room Including the 45-70 ! I swear by them ! I have swore at them at times but it usually turned out to be my falt. Yes , it is a excellant crimp and also centers the bullet at the same time ! My dies are all RCBS and when I purchace a new set - I just automatically order a Lee Crimp die . For the 45-70 I load the 405 gr. and have never had a problem with the lee crimp . If i can be of help , just let me know . Regards - bullet
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| Posted: Sun May 29th, 2005 02:50 PM |
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A word of caution. If you have not used a crimp previoulsy and you have worked up your loads to near maximum, back off a little on the powder charge when loading witha crimp. Then start working up again.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29th, 2005 02:18 AM |
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Anyone know the difference between the Lee Factory Crimp Die and the Taper Die? Besides $1.00
I like seating and crimping seperate too, and for some reason I dont have a crimp die for my son's .308
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29th, 2005 03:36 AM |
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RBH;
The taper crimp die works ok on bullets that have a cannelure on jacketed bullets and a crimp groove on cast bullets, the collet type factory crimp die will crimp any bullet, with canellure or not just crimps a very small portion of the case, just a few thousands , and , so long as the case is long enough that the crimper is not above the case mouth, it will crimp any length case at the same height.
Look at some factory loads, you can see a very narrow ring around the case mouth, this ring has 4 segments with a very small raised area between segments.
This is the factory crimp that the Lee rifle dies duplicate.
The Lee pistol factory crimp dies are not the same thing, revolver dies are roll crimp and self loaders are taper crimp.
Don
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Thanks Don, that's reassuring to hear. The Factory crimp is the one I ordered from Midway tonight. It will be interesting to see what the difference is between the previous loads that weren't crimped and the next batch that will be. I'll have to work my way back up again and see how or if things change. I'll throw the MVs up here if I can remember to do so. I just plan on using a light crimp, so maybe there won't be much of an increase.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29th, 2005 09:50 PM |
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With a little fudging, you can use factory crimp dies for several cartridges in the same caliber, I use a .35 Rem. to crimp .35 Whelen, as Lee does not have one for .35 Whelen, use .308 for .308, .303Savage, .30-30, 7.62x54R and 7.5x55 SR, just takes a spacer of the correct thickness to get the crimp at the case mouth.
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