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horsecollar
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Posted: 24 December 2007 05:20 PM |
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I use an RCBS turret press and find the tool quite handy for going from one die to another. My concern is, by the very nature of how the tool works, there is some slack in the turret head. At the top of the stroke the head moves a couple of hundredths of an inch.
So far loads produced have been fairly consistent and accurate but am I sacrificing some consistency and precision by using this instead of a single stage press?
Let me hear what you all think. If the advice is affirmative I'll still use it for pistol ammo and use a single stage press for the bottleneck stuff.
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Timberghozt
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Posted: 24 December 2007 05:52 PM |
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Using 7/8 x14 tpi dies in any press..I don`t think is 100 percent no movement.I think you`ll be just fine.When I first started handloading I loaded 168 grain MatchKings for a 300 Win Mag on a turret press that was 20 plus years old..
I picked off beer cans at 300 yards with those loads for fun.. They were just as good as anything else I ever loaded.You should be just fine and thats more than enough press for quality loads.
just my humble opinion but I`ve seen super cheap presses turn out some derned accurate handloads..and had my ass whipped on the range a time or two by em.
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wheezengeezer
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Posted: 24 December 2007 06:09 PM |
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| get one of the setups to check bullet runout.good is good no matter how you get there.
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horsecollar
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Posted: 24 December 2007 06:42 PM |
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Thanks for the advice. Having confidence in something makes all the difference.
Merry Christmas
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KeithB
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Posted: 24 December 2007 10:25 PM |
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That RCBS turret press seems like a pretty solid unit
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WILDCATT
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Posted: 28 December 2007 02:59 PM |
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| the only place that movement would affect would be in seating bullets but once set its good to go.factory rounds are not as precise as you think. many loaders are too picky.only if you are in big compitition does any count.I load for 38 and 45.in compitition they stay in X ring at 50 ft and in center ring at 50 yds.my eyes were never to good.
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steel13
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Posted: 13 January 2008 10:22 AM |
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I wish I had of bought the RCBS, I bought the new Lee turret press and cant get the S.O.B to index correctly, no matter how I adjust the indexing rod. I finally just took it out and rotated the head by hand. I think it will be the last piece of RED machinery I will buy. 
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Drygulch
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Posted: 10 June 2008 06:00 PM |
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Steel 13,
I got over 21,000 rounds through my three station turret, never had an index problem. I changed out the plastic index bushing once which I really didn't have to. I slightly lub the inside of the turret frame. The ram is sloppy due to a worn base, Ordered a new one for $15.00 I got so used to this auto indexpress that when I borrowed a Dillon 550, I double charged a case (no auto index). Fortunatly I spotted the full case and dumped it. There are Lee videos on each press and systems on the net. Keep trying!
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WILDCATT
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Posted: 11 June 2008 12:51 AM |
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the biggest problem I see is some people are to impatient and cant take the time to think.I have never had a problem with Lee presses and I have several. however I load in batches.as that is the way I want to.I also have Bonanza and tru line and rcbs.they all have a purpose. 
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steel13
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Posted: 11 June 2008 04:56 AM |
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WILDCATT wrote: the biggest problem I see is some people are to impatient and cant take the time to think.I have never had a problem with Lee presses and I have several. however I load in batches.as that is the way I want to.I also have Bonanza and tru line and rcbs.they all have a purpose.
Excuse me sir, I am not sure if that was an attempt to take a shot at me, for what ever reason, but I can tell you with the most certainty, that I am not impatient, and quite capable of rational thought processes , with time being a relative factor.
I was simply expressing my displeasure with what I thought was an unsatisfactory product.
I am certainly pleased that you have had success with your Lee presses.
My Turret press works fine for me in single stage or rotate by hand mode, and I will continue to use it in this fashion even after I send the press back to Mr. Lee to have it repaired.
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WILDCATT
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Posted: 12 June 2008 05:19 PM |
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since you took umbrig with my remark I am refering to some posters who have had various problems that seem to me to be caused by rushing,if you feel you are not one then it should not apply to you.as you say it is going back to Lee and you are still going to use it then you should not have problem with my remark.
I use the presses as batch presses.one operation at a time,this way I can check powder level.
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Drygulch
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Posted: 13 June 2008 07:05 PM |
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Steel 13,
Keep us posted on what Lee found on that press if they disclose it! I can honestly say, I don't agree with all of Lee products, take for example the Lee Pro 1000 To me it was a piece of crap. I spent too much time clearing out jams even though I am retired and a have tons of mechanical experiance,it still got frustrating. The new Classic Turret Index is a good press for the money. Since it is a four station, no index bushing is required and Lee claims it is hard to get out of adjustment compared to the three station.
Rod
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DEDON45
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Posted: 13 June 2008 08:40 PM |
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| The match ammo my buddy cranks out on his ancient lyman turret press (inherited from his father) is beyond compare... I don't think it's a concern of the turret concept itself, but more of a concern as to how the different manufacturers implement it.
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BigJakeJ1s
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Posted: 14 June 2008 04:16 AM |
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If you want accuracy and convenience in one press, the Forster co-ax press has both in spades. Snap in and out floating die retention, automatic shell holder jaws, flawless spent primer/debris handling, incredibly accurate ram travel, and leverage to spare. I like the over-the-top handle movement too.
Properly designed, die float is a good thing for accuracy. The RCBS type turrets float with an angle though, and perhaps horizontally but only in one direction (side-side, not fore-aft). As the die plate floats up, it tilts, which can cause run-out during sizing as well as seating operations. The co-ax die float is side-side & fore-aft, but with no tilt.
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