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Posted: 11 June 2008 05:49 PM |
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OK I'm going to order this press for my birthday present and I need to know what else should I get to go along with it?
I'll be loading for the 44 mag and the 40 S&W.
Can I use my RCBS uniflow measure, or do I have to buy the lee?
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Posted: 12 June 2008 02:55 AM |
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| Order the priming tool/primer magazine that fits on the press. Works well, except mine never feeds the last primer. If you have an adapter or the Uniflow fits on top of the die, don't see why you couldn't use it.
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Posted: 12 June 2008 05:21 AM |
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Hi Bandit,
Since I have this press, you could use another powder unit, but you will have to manually operate it, also make sure it is not too heavy. NOW, you could order the Lee powder thru carbide dies(red round box) which come with the shell holder and have an internal bushing that operates the LEE powder measure AUTOMATICALY during the case flare process. I would order the Lee Auto DiscPowder Measure 90578. This is a steel based unit but the hopper with removable discs is crap, so an upgrade kit(90377) is well worth the money. This upgrade kit contains a nice hopper with easy removable thumbnuts AND an adjustable micrometer powder measure that will accomodate all pistolcases.It lso has a swivel base. A riser will elevate the entire powder measure. If you can afford the Safety Prime Unit fine, but you can operate the press without it.I would mount the larger powder measure next to the press for rifle cases. Order an extra turret head for that other pistol caliber. Get Lee precision on the web, they have videos on all products and operations. Below are estimated prices from Natchez or Midway,
Dies----$22
Turret head 12
Scale---19
Riser---7.00
Powder unit---21
Update kit powder---12
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Posted: 13 June 2008 03:17 AM |
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I'll beg my wife for the extras
Thanks guys
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Posted: 13 June 2008 10:47 PM |
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Maybe you can get the store to consolidate those two powder units and come up with one good one.to save money. I never had to trim pistol brass, but they do need to be cleaned, like a used rock tumbler or vibrater. I got plenty of once fired 40 SW brass if you need some, send your adress.
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Posted: 14 June 2008 12:55 AM |
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I could use all the once fired 40 brass I can find. I only have about 200 now. I may just get the powder charger, dies and call it good for now. Thanks for the help
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Posted: 14 June 2008 03:56 AM |
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Cabela's sells the Classic Cast Turret press in a kit with PM, scale, everthing else for $165. I don't know anyone else that sells the kit with that press.
You can use a Hornady case activated PM linkage with your Uniflow measure. You will need the Hornady powder through expanders that they sell for that same linkage on their progressive presses. I think it will be too heavy for the Lee press to auto-index though.
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Posted: 4 July 2008 07:08 AM |
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I would get a hand primer - Lee and RCBS sell them, among others (I love the RCBS one). I own an RCBS single-stage Rockchucker, an older RCBS with a piggyback progressive setup that has a fancy slider affair that is supposed to feed primers reliably, and a Lee Turret Press. None of them feed primers as reliably and with the assurance that I enjoy as with a hand primer tool. You can feel the primers as they seat and spot problems immediately.
Then, I can prime my cases while enjoying the company of my family in the living room.
Purchase an intertia bullet puller (again, RCBS takes my nod with their green plastic hammer). There will be those times when things just didn't come together correctly!
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Posted: 4 July 2008 01:46 PM |
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johndefresno wrote: I would get a hand primer - Lee and RCBS sell them, among others (I love the RCBS one). I own an RCBS single-stage Rockchucker, an older RCBS with a piggyback progressive setup that has a fancy slider affair that is supposed to feed primers reliably, and a Lee Turret Press. None of them feed primers as reliably and with the assurance that I enjoy as with a hand primer tool. You can feel the primers as they seat and spot problems immediately.
Then, I can prime my cases while enjoying the company of my family in the living room.
Purchase an intertia bullet puller (again, RCBS takes my nod with their green plastic hammer). There will be those times when things just didn't come together correctly!
I have a RCBs collet bullet puller and really like it. I did not like their older hand primer
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Posted: 4 July 2008 02:14 PM |
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Black-tailed Bandit schreef: johndefresno wrote: I would get a hand primer - Lee and RCBS sell them, among others (I love the RCBS one). I own an RCBS single-stage Rockchucker, an older RCBS with a piggyback progressive setup that has a fancy slider affair that is supposed to feed primers reliably, and a Lee Turret Press. None of them feed primers as reliably and with the assurance that I enjoy as with a hand primer tool. You can feel the primers as they seat and spot problems immediately.
Then, I can prime my cases while enjoying the company of my family in the living room.
Purchase an intertia bullet puller (again, RCBS takes my nod with their green plastic hammer). There will be those times when things just didn't come together correctly!
I have a RCBs collet bullet puller and really like it. I did not like their older hand primer I have the RCBS hand priming tool with the disc magazine feed, and I am not impressed! The lining of the priming ram is made of some kind of plastic/nylon and allows for a lot of play sidewards of the priming ram, just a weak design for an otherwise well engineered tool. I bought the Bench Mounted automatic priming tool from them and it is pure joy to work with.
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Posted: 4 July 2008 08:44 PM |
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I guess I've been lucky with the RCBS Hand Priming Tool. The only feed problems I have ever encountered where when I half-squeezed the handle - didn't do my part and make a full stroke.
Of course, I check the primer pockets carefully and clean them if necessary before I prime the cases. The metal ram with its adequate diameter and (obviously) with the flat side facing the primers has never "wiggled" on me - it just goes up and down as it is supposed to, provided that I have pushed the plastic sleeve all the way in to the side as one is supposed to.
Is your plastic primer sleeve too loose? RCBS is solid gold in replacing any defective or worn parts for free, with just an e-mailed request. That is the main reason why I usually elect to use their products. They have made good, several times, by replacing stuff that was on my second-hand equipment, even though I told them that I was not the original purchaser. Now, I feel like I owe them my patronage.
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Posted: 4 July 2008 09:02 PM |
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I know about their outstanding service: I had some problems with the APS-system of my PRO 2000 press, and they sent me not only the parts I needed to cure the problem, but also a complete installed lower part to install on the press-ram.
Because of this, I rather would feel guilty when moaning about such a tool, and simply bought another, more convenient and better constructed tool, which certainly helps to avoid pain in mij arthritic thumb-joint.
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Posted: 5 July 2008 11:15 PM |
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+1 on the rcbs hand primer I LOVE IT!!!! Its great to have the "feel" / "feedback" and its super quick and I too bring up a loading block full and sit with the family and squeeze em off  minesnot an old one but its primed some thousands of cases without a problem ..... no play anywhere in mine.... and when I first got it I did the half squeeze thing once inna while ... Its never missed a beat..... there is a note on the instructions somewhere that says when you seperate it to slide the sleeve out that you should not let the handle release all the way or "internal" peices will need to be realigned maybe that could cause a problem but I admit I even did that to mine and it still has never had a problem
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Posted: 6 July 2008 02:42 AM |
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I have two of the Lee Hand Primers, one for small primers and one for the large. Never had a problem with them. Lee makes good economy priced stuff.
Why would you have to beg your wife, doesn't she shoot along side of you? Or won't she let you use HER Dillon?
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Posted: 6 July 2008 02:36 PM |
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The Dillon is at my dads, so I so not get to use it much. I was just blowing it way out of proportion, I have to as but I do not have to beg I just have to explain why I need it.
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Posted: 6 July 2008 05:55 PM |
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Black-tailed Bandit wrote: The Dillon is at my dads, so I so not get to use it much. I was just blowing it way out of proportion, I have to as but I do not have to beg I just have to explain why I need it.
OK - try this, if you need to explain it to your wife or significant other:
"It holds the dies so I only have to set it once - then I just put the turret on the press to quickly set up a load each time I need to load some more rounds. That leaves more time for me and you! And it's MUCH cheaper than buying another Dillon!"
Or to yourself:
"I need it because I can be more efficient with my time by switching components when my Dillon is tied up. And it's MUCH cheaper than buying another Dillon!"
Or:
"Because it's there! I don't have one! I have to have one! And it's MUCH cheaper than buying another Dillon!"
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Posted: 6 July 2008 06:22 PM |
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When I was married, I found begging didn't do a whole lot except make you less than an equal partner.
When I was married I had to give up my Triumph, only had 3 rifle and two pistols. Well she spent the money I made like it was water.
Now I have a couple of lady friends, who understand that I run a farm and being retired I don't have to worry too much. So I buy my play toys as I can, plus take the ladies out to dinner once in a while or cook for them or maybe a movie.
One lady in the past had looked at my gun collection and reloading bench. She said if I need money I could just sell that stuff. She was gone within 5 minutes.
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