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Hello, badtoad here-new here today. I am wanting to trim a bunch of 308 cases. I got tired and sore from cranking my lyman trimmer, got the power drill adapter, and still think there must be something better. Any thoughts/recommendations? I am looking at redding's file trim die, as they say their die is made to chamber specs, (versus resizing die specs, I guess??). And the price ain't to bad, which is priority with me now. Also, any thoughts on the lee trimmers? I guess these can go in a drill press, and they are just factory set so there is no adjustment. Am I correct in my assumption on the Lee? Any info would be appreciated. Also, I am only using a Rock Chucker purchased in 1992. Thanks, badtoad.
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welcome aboard.
I use an RCBS tirmmer..I too hate trimming brass.
I have one Redding trim die.
For my 45-70
Love it,but I dont shoot a lot of volume of 45-70
Reserve it with 300 grain HP`s for hunting only,plus it kickcs so damned hard I don`t wanta go shoot even 20 rounds from it.
FOR LOW VOLUME loading a trim die is great.
Fora 100 rounds,it`ll work ya to death..
again welcome..
ps. I think rcbs makes an electric trimmer that supposed to be pretty good.
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i've heard of folks hating the trimming process so much they either don't do it or they've fashions homemade contraptions and used their power drills from the garage. lol.
i do a lot of case trimming, but never in high number settings so it's never really become an objectionable process for me. i'll trim 100 and move on to other bench projects then come back and do another 100 for the next project. folks that feel the need to trim hundreds of cases at a time i can see where they'd desire a more automated system.
i use the rcbs hand powered number right now. off and on, i have looked at the power unit that's supposed to attach to this thing but again, just don't to the volume to make it worth my while.
i know there's lots of powered options out there. hope you find one that fits your needs.
and welcome to the forum.
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I make 45 acp shotshells out of 308, 270, 358, 243,etc., brass, and it requires alot of filing on the case form die, so I figured that a file trim die for trimming 308 would probably only take a swipe or two with a file to clean them up. I will have to do some more looking and thinking on this. I think that the redding -and maybe others- are not to much $$$$, which right now is the number 1 controlling factor in buying more toys. I will call redding, as I think their die does not size the brass as much as other manufacturers. Thanks for your input on this. John T.
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i don't mind trimming cases at all - part of the procedure.
I use the lee case trimmer, which to me seems to make good sense. never out of adjustment and always the right length - affordable too!
if you're doing a few, you can do them by hand, or if you're doing a lot, simpy insert the base into your cordless screw driver - works easy.
as korey says, if you have a LOT to do, do a few at a time and don't let the job ruin your day!
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I use the RCBS Trim Pro. I can trim 3 cases per minute. Even at that it takes a long time to trim 500 308 cases. There is no real work to it, just the time required to run them all through.
I have been using it for several years and have had no problem with it. I have started trimming cases after each firing even though I hate case trimming.
I use the RCBS three way cutter so it saves a lot of time as I don't have to chamfer inside and out.
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I use Lee's case trimmers. Chuck the cutter in a drill press. You can either use the table for a cutting base (Slip the case over the length gauge and pull the quilll down), or use Lee's hardened shell holder for the case trimmer, and slip the whole thing up onto the klength gauge. Takes about 5 to 7 seconds per case, haven't found anything faster.
For shotshells, I use a small lathe to cut cases back, much easier than the forming die.
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I'm slowly working on cutting down and trimming a bunch of old .30-06 and .270 brass, to reform into 8mm Mauser. I use the Lee Case Length Gauge in my Lyman Deburring Tool - a glorified cordless screwdriver. I'm not in any great hurry.
I got the Lee gauges for all my rifle calibers I load for.
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What charley said. I use the lee trimmers as well. I have a 3n1lathe mill drill. I chuck the cutter in the headstock, deburring tool in the drill/mill head, and run an electric drill zip tied to the table for the outside debur. Zing zang zong quick.
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TasunkaWitko wrote: charley or meister -
can you post a pic of that setup?
Ron, here's what I do... With my drill press, if you use the table you can only trim cases shorter than 2 inches
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Short cases can be done against the table, here is a 9x19 being shortened to 9x18... Attachment: DSCF0006f.JPG (Downloaded 187 times)
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I do the same as Charley only I clamp the shell holder in the vise. Takes but a very few minutes to trim up 50 cases.
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I think I will look at the Lee thing. What all do I have to buy from Lee to be able to trim 308 cases? That is the only caliber I need to do in volume, the 06, 300win mag and 30-30 don't see as much action as the 308. About how much is the Lee set-up you guys are talking about? Also, thanks a bunch for all the replies. Its nice when gun guys take care of each other, instead of dogging someone for asking such a stupid question-about what ever. I used to frequent a local gunstore, spent a couple dollars there, not much. Starting reloading, about 18 years back, went in there to ask why I was wrinkling cases on 45 acp, seating and crimping at the same time. So the dude there tells me, "how are you loading them?", and I tell him on a rock chucker. His response-sht man, I can do a hundred an hour on my rock chucker, then walks off. I did not go back into that store. Well I bought lots of stuff in the last 18 years, but not from them.
Thanks again, John T.
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You need the case trimmer cutter and lock stud, less than $5 at Midway, though they show it out of stock right now. You also need the shell holder and case length gauge, caliber specific, also about $5.
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Is the case length gauge required? ( I have calipers). Just wondering, it would be one thing less to buy/keep track of. Also, is it a special shell holder for Lee's trimmer, or does rcbs,etc., work? Not trying to be cheap, just trying to only have as many tools as I need without doubling up on stuff. Thanks again for your replies.
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john - take a look at this - it will explain it pretty well, i think:
LEE CASE TRIMMER
The simplest way to check the case and trim to the correct safe length is with a Lee Case Trimmer.
After a case has been loaded a few times, it will stretch beyond maximum length and must be trimmed. The Cutter and Lock Stud works for all calibers. You will need only one. The Case Length Gauge (Pilot) and Shell Holder must be ordered as Case Length Gauge and shell holder for each caliber. Scroll down for product numbers.
Trim cases by hand or electrically. Can be used with an elecrtric drill to trim, chamfer and polish cases faster. Eliminates danger of long cases. Squares the mouth for more accurate bullet seating and exit.
 Lock Stud
 Cutter
Cutter & Lock Stud
90110 Serv.Parts
5.98
 90401 Serv.Parts
9.98
Chamfer Tool
Must be used after Case Trimming. Unique design cuts fast without chatter. One turn does the job. Chamfers and deburrs inside and outside of case necks. Can also be used to remove the crimp from primer pockets of G.I. brass. Works better than tools costing several times as much.
LEE CHAMFER TOOL
90109 Serv.Parts
2.98
Primer Pocket Cleaner
Double ended design cleans both large and small primer pockets. Primers can be fully seated for better accuracy and safety. Costs so little and works so well, no reloader can afford to be without one.
LEE POCKET PRIMER CLEANER
90101 Serv.Parts
1.98
as you can see, the cutter and lock stud are universal and can be used for any cartridge.
the case length gauge and shell holder must be purchased separately because the gauge is cut to the precise length for that cartridge. the shell holder is designed only for use here with the case trimming system as it is designed differently than a "regular" shell holder. if you start to get too many shell holders running around on your bench, lee makes a handy and attractive little box for them for about three dollars. i prefer the green ones, although you must specify that color or you will get a red one.
as you can see, it's a simple and very easy system that makes it easy and affordable to trim as many cases as you need quickly and efficiently.
as charley said, they are dirt cheap at midway or you can order them for a little more directly from http://www.leeprecision.com and receive them a little sooner.
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I have a rough idea of how this works, read about it before, will have to order some of these pieces and give it a try. $5 here, $5 there, not to bad a price at all, like most Lee stuff I guess. Thanks for the replies. Wish I could sit on that bomb,too!!
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