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Received my NEF .45-70 Wednesday, loaded Thursday, shot Friday, a lot of fun if not to heavy[ I have had an operation on my left rotator cuff, totally seperated it 2 years ago, and last month strained the right cuff attachments and tore the bicep, was yellow, green and purple for 3 weeks,still pretty sore]
Got good accuracy, for my eyes. with open sights, of 2" at 50 yds, one load did 1 1/2 ".
Shall do more workups, but this will be a real thumper at 100-125 yds as is my .44-40, I use up to 500gr in the .45-70 and 310's in the .44-40.
All cast gas check bullets.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20th, 2005 02:33 PM |
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Hey drinks.Sounds like its doing great with iron sights!!I traded a pistol a long time ago for a NEF handi in .223Rem.Ugly as sin,but shot like a champ.Ended up trading it off for another rifle but no complaints about their accuracy.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 20th, 2005 04:59 PM |
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I've never shot an NEF, but there's something about them that's kind of neat. Very simple design. The price is right. Sounds like yours is doing real good.
A 310gr bullet in a 44-40? Wow, that's a lot of bullet. Do you know what the velocity is on that one?
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21st, 2005 12:53 AM |
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Gunrunner;
I use data from a '67 Lyman manual for estimated pressure levels and have a chronograph, I also mike all cases after each use to see if there is any head expansion.
I load a 240swcgc to 1650fps and could still go some more as there is no measurable head expansion.
The 310 rfngc I load to 1350fps and had only .0003 head expansion, could go some more, likely another 200fps with no problem,except the little '92 weighs only 6 lbs and has a steel buttplate, is starting to rear back some.
The .44-40 case has more capacity than the .44mag., late production cases are solid head, not the balloon head cases used up until the '50's-'60's and my '92 was made in 1910, well after smokeless powder loadings were in use.
I have been shooting the '92 since I was 7, really am attached to it.
Don
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24th, 2005 08:04 PM |
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Try 60 grains of 2f black in that handi with the 500gr bullet, wont need the gas checks, but a card wad cut from a milk carton is perfect. Accuracy is great and the recoil isn't bad at all with a similiar load from my handi.
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Longhunter;
I have only used the wads per Lyman load data, a 5/8" square of 1/4 " dacron quilt batting, firmly placed on the powder, so far, it does well and $2 of batting will last years.
I like gas checks for cleaning the bore, also assures a square base that will not gas cut.
Even the molds I have that are not gc, I add a cut for a gc on the bullets, just takes a few seconds with my lathe and a cutoff tool.
Don
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I just picked up a Handi Rifle in 243 22" bull barrel with a BSA Catseye IR 3.5x10 at the gun show for $250.00. My son wants to go PD hunting next year, and this was my cheap solution. I really wanted the 24" Ultra Varmint, aut money talks. I can send it off a get a 223 24" bull barrel for $103.00.
Mine doesn't group that well with the 100 grain handloads I bought at the show. I will be getting in some 55-65 grain bullets from Midway to develope loads with.
Anyone tried the 223 bull barrel version?
Years ago I had a a H&R Shakri in 44 mag that had been rechambered to 444 Marlin. It was VERY accurate with open sights and VERRRRY bad on recoil. Back then it was balls to the wall or not at all. I shot a swimming water moccasin with it and it blew the head off and threw the body OVER the power lines. It was imperssive! I had to let it go.
I now have a H&R 58 cal muzzle loader stuck back in the safe. I haven't shot it, but my brother tells me it is a bit stiff on recoil. It screams sabot with lighter bullets.
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I was back out with the .45-70 Wednesday, I mounted a Weaver rail on it and recut slots where I needed them to mount a 2.5x IER shotgun scope so it would clear the hammer.
After dialing it in , I shot 5 in less than 1" at 50 yds, a 300gr rfn gc , 30 gr 4198, 1450 fps.
At 100 to 125 yds, this will punch a big hole in a pig and make a bunch of BBQ and sausage.
Still have several loads of 4198 with 400 and 500 gr cgc bullets to try .
Also shot my old 788 .243 with cast 90gr gc and Speer Spitzer 80grs.
14gr 4227, 90 cgc, 1550fps, 3 in one 8 shaped hole , 16gr 4227,1650fps, 90cgc, 2 touching, 1, 1/2 " to side.
35gr 4064, 80gr Speer, 2850 fps,3 in one 8 shaped hole, 37 gr ,3030 fps, 3 touching, 5/8 "horizontal.
24gr 4198, 2300 fps, 90gr cgc , 2 touching, one, 1/2" right.
26gr 4198, 90gr cgc, 2550 fps , 3 shots, completely missed the paper.
Shall try again with hotter cgc loads with some water dropped and heat treated bullets.
All results at 50 yds.
Shall be back.
Don
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