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Good morning and good day, I need some input on a the subject of how long can you go before you should actually get that barrel cleaned of copper etc. What I'm getting at is this. Yesterday after bowhunting in the morning here in western wisconsin. I had brought along my 7mm rifle I use for deer hunting. It was an awesome day to say the least to foul the barrel and have it ready for deer season. Of course rifle season is 1 month away. Now after deer season I do of course clean the barrel with Butch's products. Now with my Ruger no 1 in 22-250 and my Remington classic BDL in .223 I'll have them ready to go in Dec. and Won't clean them until probly the end of April. Now i wonder if leaving a fouled barrel go that long. And also with consideration of bringing your shooter in from the cold and in my man cave where my gun case is. Of course I do wipe the gun down with a silicone cloth or with a light coat of Rem oil. I haven't done it but thought about with an ever so lightly oiled patch, to run that patch through the barrel????????????? Sometime I've taken my air compressor and with a blow air attachment and after the gun has come back up to room temperature I'll blast a couple shots of air down the barrel ??????????. I keep my hunting room shop going with a dehumidifier with the humdity running at 38 to 41% Once every two months I wipe all my shooters down. I guess mt main concern is are my varmit rifles. Letting them go that long without removing any copper fouling. I know this is real long but does anybody have any input as to what may be OK and what isn't. Thanks a lot Lefty
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| Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 01:14 PM |
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When I start deer hunting,I try to leave my rifle in the outdoors temperature.When I have to bring it in I keep it in a padded case so it will warm up slowly.Jacket fouling can sit for 1 day or 1 year with little or no difference.I never take my first shot with a clean barrel.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 03:10 PM |
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I got to feeling guilty about the copper in my barrels some years back and got some Sweet's to clean it out with. Sure does work good but accuracy was lost. I'm back to using Hoppe's #9 most of the time now. It seem's to leave the right amount of fouling!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 04:26 PM |
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About the only time I worry about copper fouling is when it gets bad enough that I start losing accuracy. The other time is if I'm doing a lot of cast bullet shooting. In taht case, no pun intended, I try to remove every bit of copper from the barrel as copper degrades accuracy with cast bullets.
I have had rifles that would copper foul so badly that accuracy would go to hell in ten shots or less and getting it out was literally an all day job. One was so bad I had to fire lap the barrel to smooth it out some.
I do think that local climate may have some bearing on how diligent one should be in removing the copper. Foe example, I live in the very dry southwestern part of the country and I can even get away with not cleaning corrosive priming residue during at least half the year, although I do not let it stay one second longer than it takes to get the cleaning gear out. When i lived nar the ocean years ago, a rifle that shot corrosive left overnight prior to cleaning had a barrel that was rusted badly.
I remember when moly coating was considered the real deal and lots of people were coating their barrels and and bullets with the stuff. Then, gun writer Rick Jamison coated a couple of barrel with the stuff and shot moly coated bullets for a period of time. Cleaning was the normal miminal most of us do. Then, he stripped the moly coating from the barrel and found corrosion. I wonder, if corrosion can occur under that layer of copper fouling, especially in the more moist climates with high humidity? Interesting thought. 
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| Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 06:36 PM |
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I clean my barrel with Shooter's Choice or is it Marksman Choice? I spend the time and elbow grease to get the flowing out, when push come to shove, I get a can of Carburetor cleaner out spray the barrel down and then clean it with a tornado brush and then patches. Even thou modern primers and powders are non corrosive, leaving a barrel fouled with cause damage over time.
In the Army I trained in Alaska, I thought I was going to be stationed in Europe, that situation is for another day. The M16 could not stand being taken from a 70 degree indoor temp to a below zero temp and expect it to immediately work. The rifle needed to be allowed to equalize with the outdoor temp, then it was not that reliable. The cure was simple, we were issued M14s and M1 Garands.
Your climate maybe vastly different than where I live, but I allow my weapons to equalize with the temperature before doing any serious hunting. Sometimes that could be 20 minutes, some times that could be an hour.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 18th, 2009 08:08 PM |
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Thanks for all the replys thus far. knowledge is power and it's greatly appreciated.Thanks lefty
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