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9 mm and Carbide die
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 Posted: Fri Dec 1st, 2006 12:01 AM
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9 mm cartridge dimensions show a significant taper from web to case mouth. The no-lube carbide-type dies make it a straight wall case. Doesn't this create problems? Will some experienced 9 mm reloader breifly describe what he uses to reload 'em? I know it headspaces on the case mouth. This is the only caliber I've done that gives me trouble.

 

 



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 Posted: Fri Dec 1st, 2006 12:10 AM
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The expander will give it some shape. It will be a Coke bottle shape but I've shot several like that with no problem. It doesn't seem to affect powder capacity much. It hasn't affected feeding in my Browning Highpower or a 9mm 1911 I once owned or a Mauser Luger either.



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 Posted: Fri Dec 1st, 2006 12:13 AM
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Will you tell me what brand carbide-type die you're using?



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 Posted: Fri Dec 1st, 2006 12:18 AM
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I started reloading in 1969 with a Lyman 310 tool, this is really handloading. I also have a set of Lee dies and a set of RCBS dies. I'm not sure how I came up with two sets of the same dies. I really can't tell any diffence between the Lee and the RCBS. As far as that goes the 310 tool made fine accurate reloads. I still have it.



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For a long time, Lee was about the only manufacturer who produced a tapered carbide die for the 9x19. Most manufacturers just used a carbide insert at the bottom of the die body, which gave a straight case. Lee's insert was longer and ground on a taper, and sized the case correctly. 

I've never had a problem with 9x19 handloads. I've used them in a Star M30, a Kel-Tec P-11, an 1896 Mauser, and  Walther P-1.  All have worked 100%.

I have heard Lee began making their carbide crimp dies from damaged or incorrectly ground sizing dies, which were mostly 9x19 dies.



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Thanks, didn't know anybody made a tapered carbide die.



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Midway sells an excellent gauge that will not only tell if the cartridge is within spec but also check the crimp for your headspace



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I have been using the Lee deluxe carbide 9mm diesfor a few years now, and no issues. There isa definate Coke bottle shape at the end, but I have not had any issues with loads that were inside proper spec, (we won't talk about the over OAL ones when I started...), and the Final Crimp Die brings everything back into sopec after all loading activity is done.



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