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Does anybody out there have a 460 S&W that they reload for ? Trying to find different loads other than what I've found listed. I have a couple of good ones with 300 gr. bullets if anybody is interested. Taking the pistol with me out of state hunting again this year and maybe try to shoot a deer or an elk with it. I've found it hard to beat the factory loads accuracy. The Hornady 200 gr. and Cor Bon 275 gr. Barnes XPB both are shootin' 1 3/8 to 2.0 in. grps at 50 yds. w/7x scope. My 300 gr. Hornady XTP/mag loads with 40.0 grs. of H110 can match it but that's about it. the 240 gr. XTP didn't shoot to well. I have some 200 gr. Barnes XPB's to try yet but wanted to stick with heavier bullets. Maybe the barrel twist was meant for 200 gr. bullet at 2300 fps. Begining to wonder. Be a flat shooter. Wait, that's a light weight bullet ! I didn't say that.  Last edited on Wed Mar 14th, 2007 02:52 AM by wyo300rum
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Probably due to the gain twist rifling.....starts as 1:100" and by the time it reaches the end it 1:20". Gain twist has always been a confusing animal to decipher? Never liked trying to reload for them!
.460 Smith & Wesson Magnum - http://ammoguide.com/?catid=389
There are a few listed on the above link. Seems as if only two powders are used though....H-110 and Lil'Gun.
Scott (you got a extra leg for that thing?) B
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Thanks Scott ! I did join the ammoguide a few mon. ago like I told you but never did look for loads on the 460 lately. had non back then if I remember right. Haven't trid LiL'Gun though. I've always had such good luck with H!!0 in my 454 Cassul and 44 mag. Works good in the 460 so far to and It loks like it's what they use in the factory Hornady too when i pulled a bullet. I forgot about the gain twist. That could be true  Thanks for you input Scott ! 
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| Posted: Wed Mar 14th, 2007 09:46 PM |
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sdb777, I got on the ammoguide and found they have 16 loads now. One is even the one I worked up. Thanks for reminding me to look. Don
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No prob! AmmoGuide is to convenient to overlook..... when you get tired of sending those little slugs downrange try some of these. http://www.beartoothbullets.com/bulletselect/index.htm
Pick the size you want then wait for the big brown truck to roll your way! These lead projectiles with gas checks are super! Penetration has always been outstanding with heavy gas-checked lead bullets, and the mushrooms....WOW!!!
I use some of their stuff for the 444Marlin, 45-70Gov't, and even a .35Rem. Haven't tried the smaller stuff(.22 caliber, 6mm, .30 caliber) but I might when I get bored
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Oh hell yeah ! Those are nice . 405 gr. That would be a stomper in the 460 SW. I used to have a bullet mould for .30 cal and I think it was 150 gr. I used to use half linotype and it was harder than hell. It was gas checked by the way. I shot it out of 30.06, 308 and even an HK91 in 308 I had. I didn't load then real fast though. It got old. I'm gonna order some of them . Thanks !
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I started to buy the 460 but decided to buy the 500 instead.
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I wanted a flatter shooting revolver and not as much recoil as the .500. The 460 does have plenty though ! I think the weight (73 oz.) and the muzzle brake help though. I have a Burris 2x7 on it too. It doesn't seem to kick much more than my Ruger Super R.H. in .454 Casull either. It think it is 54 oz. or something like that and have a 1x4 Burris on it. Notice the difference when shooting 200 gr. compared to 300 gr. bullets in the 460 that's for sure. The good thing for me is that I can use the same powder and bullets for the two. Thanks bea175
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The 460 is much better for long range shooting than the 500. I just wanted the most powerful handgun that Smith made . May get a 460 to go with it. In my opinion you made a good choice for big game hunting and the 460 may be a little better for the job than the 500.
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Thaks bea. Your thinkin' of getting a 460 too ! Dammit ! I wanted the 10 in. hunter barrel but they didn't have it yet. I got the 8 and what ever it is in. barrel which is counting the muzzle brake. I think the barrel is actually 7.5 in. What length/model did you get for your 500 ? Have you had good results with your loads ? My Ruger SRH 454 is a 9 in. barrel. I've shot 45 LC's out of it on target too. Pretty good accuracy too. They wer factory Black Hills . I haven't shot a 454 or 45 LC out of the 460 yet. I just want to shoot a 454 out of it to see how it feels with a 20 oz. heavier gun. I wish my Contender w/35 Rem. was heavier. Even with rubber grip it hurts. I put Pachmyer rubber grips on my Ruger 454 too and it and the 460 which already had really nice rubber grips on it don't hurt my hand at all. Gloves help too.
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Looking forward to your development reports.
I had considered a .460 purchase, but honestly, with a .454 Casull already in the safe, I just couldn't do it. I'm not really a proponent of light and fast in a revolver round, so if the purchase would have been made, I'd have loaded it up with a heavy 370 gr. bullet at minimum. When I looked at the #'s, using the 395 gr. Cast Performance LBT that I was in my Casull, I was getting within 140 fps of published .460 velocities with a shorter barrel and a 20 oz. lighter gun. Don't get me wrong, I do thing a 140 fps advantage is fairly considerable, but not so glaringly so as to make the purchase necessary. Bottom line is I didn't think I needed a .454 and a .460 in the safe and I wasn't quite prepared to sell the Super RedHawk for an X-Frame.
When considering the .460 or .500, I kinda fell in line with BEA175's thinking. Shooting the flattest revolver round was far less appealing to me when the opportunity was there to own and shoot the most powerful revolver round. Taurus coming out with their affordable .500 aided the decision making process a bit, as well.
Anyway, good luck with the gun. >> klallen
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I actually went in to buy the 500. I looked at both and got to thinkin. I could have a flat shooter with a 200 gr. bullet at 2200-2300 fps. and a decent heavy load w/300+ gr. load and thanks to sdb777 a 405 gr bullet too. It didn't bother me that my 454 was near that performance. I new the 460 was better and I just plain liked the pistol. Hell, I may buy a 500 too ! I personally would not buy a Taurus or gun made in Brazil. Just me.
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wyo300rum wrote: I personally would not buy a Taurus or gun made in Brazil.
Why?
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Thanks Bea175 ! I appreciate the support !
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Because I think our metals and Technology is superior to any other country's and I not supporting another country when it comes to Guns,scopes,knives,motorcycles,Atv's,or trucks. Never have and never will. It;s just me and leave it at that. I do own a Sako though Last edited on Sun Mar 18th, 2007 01:41 AM by wyo300rum
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I really like my 2 Taurus revolvers, W300R. Don't have any experience with their semi-auto offerings, but their wheel guns ... mercy, mine have taken a pounding and kept right on putting the bullet where it needs to be. Product quality certainly isn't a concern.
I've never really looked at these purchases as supporting the country of Brazil. More along the lines of simply buying a top quality product for an extremely competitive price. Two things that matter a great deal to me.
I do have a Burris scope on the .500 S&W, for what it's worth. Not so much because it's US made but because Burris makes the best handgun scopes on the market ... getting back to the quality and price things.
Take it easy. >> klallen
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I have no problem with anybody else buying them I just won't to save a few bucks. I like American made things. I'll agree with you on Burris scopes. I have 9 Burris scopes on my rifles and two on pistolss. The 454 and 460. I do have a couple cheap scopes on 22 rifles. I have a Leupold on one rifle also. I love it too.
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wyo300rum wrote: I have no problem with anybody else buying them I just won't to save a few bucks. I like American made things.
Don't read to much into this, W300R. As with you, I prefer US made. I just can't get to worked up about it. To many components contracted outside US boarders and assembled here, then given the "Made in the USA" sticker for me to keep track of it all. That's why I stick with the constants that I can control ... buying quality and buying at a competitive price. Rangefinders are a prime example. Very important tool to me. Be kinda hypocritical of me to buy my Leica or upcoming Newcon over second rate US products and then say I can't get myself a Taurus revolver or a Bersa semi-auto because they're not US made. Wouldn't make much sense. Bottom line is, if US products compete in quality and price, they're most definitely considered. If they don't, they're not. You mentioned spending a little more to have US made. I got my Taurus .500 for $675 + $20 shipping. Just didn't make sense to spend the added $200 for an X-Frame. An extra out of pocket expense that'd give me no return in product quality or performance. Kinda the opposite of your thinking ... I can't spend more without getting a recognizable return on that investment. I guess we'll just agree to disagree . Later. >> klallen
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I guess so
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