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deboog93
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Posted: 14 August 2008 12:45 AM |
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Carlo
that was exactly the problem I was having with my reloads. They would start into the cylinder fine and get tight just before the round was almost in all the way. Seems this happened more with the nickel cases as opposed to the brass. The way to deal with that trade all your nickel cases. not really but it sounded good. My biggest thing was these were some of my first reloads and I had flared some of the neck cases way to big. I have some experience under my belt and expert advise from boards like this and we are good to go now.
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miestro_jerry
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Posted: 14 August 2008 03:13 AM |
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When I use cartridges for show, I may crimp the bullet in the case, but I use a taper crimp die to smooth them out. For 38 Spl or 357 Mag, I use a light tap with my 9mm taper crimp die.
Next time I have brass to throw, how much notice do I need to give so you guys can be on the receiving end?
Jerry
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Carlo1776
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Posted: 14 August 2008 03:29 PM |
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miestro_jerry wrote: When I use cartridges for show, I may crimp the bullet in the case, but I use a taper crimp die to smooth them out. For 38 Spl or 357 Mag, I use a light tap with my 9mm taper crimp die.
Next time I have brass to throw, how much notice do I need to give so you guys can be on the receiving end?
Jerry
The case bulging (for me) seemed to be more common on 10mm, 45ACP, .40 S&W & .38 SPC/.357. 9mm never had the problem. The Lee factory crimp dies cured the problem. As for the brass toss I should have enough to carry me to retirement. Thanks Jerry.
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miestro_jerry
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Posted: 14 August 2008 04:01 PM |
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Carlo,
I have the Lee Crimps and others. I use them on a regular basis. I never had the problems with the calibers you mentioned, but I do have the problem with 357 Mag and 357 MAX, so I do a taper crimp on them after a roll crimp.
This maybe an extra step, but assures the cartrisge will fit in the chamber if I use a really strong roll crimp on the cartridge.
I am set up with a lot of brass, but I am retired and still going through brass I bought 20 or more years ago.
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Posted: 14 August 2008 06:07 PM |
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| I load light .367 mag loads for the range and probably about 30% of my cases are nickel plated. I would guesstimate that the lot I have now have been reloaded 8-10 times and I have seen no problems as mentioned. I do get a few splts ,but they seem to be about equal on the brass vs nickle plated cases
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miestro_jerry
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Posted: 14 August 2008 09:20 PM |
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Way back in the last century and the last milineum, I got such a deal on once fire miltary 38 Spl brass. $.0025 each shell, yes that is 1/4 of a penny each. I bought 5,000. I am still shooting the same brass as I started with, but I shoot mild to medium loads.
357 Mag, I load warm, it is a magnum. Don't have too many split with either.
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bandit
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Posted: 17 August 2008 10:31 PM |
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I have been loading for several years. Started at age 16 and am 55 now. Loading has come a long way.
The problems of case bulge is one that I had in my earlier years and as far as case splitting, that is usually due to fatigue. Case trimming and measuring of case wall thickness is a good way to judge what kind of longevity, depending on charge, your cases will have. I will usually as a rule keep my cases for about 15 to 30 reloads depending on charge. Never had a case seperate or side split on me yet, knock on wood.
However, I started in the early 80s, reloading with Lee dies exclusively and have eleviated all problems.
When you bell the mouth of the case, you need just enough bell so as to seat the bullet in the bell with finger pressure to a depth of about 1/16th of an inch or just enough to hold it in place as it goes into the seater,crimper die. This works for brass and nickel equally well for me.
But remember, a case tumbler makes brass cases real shinny.
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miestro_jerry
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Posted: 17 August 2008 10:38 PM |
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Bandit,
I agree with you, I have a home made M die that I used for a long time and then bought 2 sets of the Lee expander dies, one for large and one for small. I have not seen splitting cases in a long time.
My tumblers are Dillons, thy work well, I use ground walnut shell with some flitz to make my cases shiney.
Jerry
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Posted: 18 August 2008 05:29 AM |
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| if you bell to the point that your case mouth is contacting the sides of the die and you are still pushing down on it, the case will buckle, normally about the center. possibly your nickel cases have stretched more than the brass ones. like some others have said it does sound like you are trying to bell more than necessary. PS. I've been loading for 45 years and have had some nickel plating peel off of a few cases, but not often. haven't had any other problems. they seem to load about as long as any other.
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Posted: 18 August 2008 05:37 AM |
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SwampShooter,
I use just a gentle kiss of the M die on the case, just enough to get the slight belling and barely enough to get the bullet to seat in the case.
I have been doing all of my own reloading on a large scale for more than 30 years, but I started loading when I was 16 and now, lets just say I am retired.
Jerry
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bandit
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Posted: 19 August 2008 10:07 PM |
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Hey Swampshooter,
I agree with you on the plated cases, I too have had some peeling but mine is usually confined to around the mouth of the cases.
As you can see, I am new to this site. Let me introduce myself, as I feel I am going to like this site and have already read a wealth of good information from those here.
I go by the name bandit, I am retired military, 1971 - 1993. I am now employed with the Fl. Dept. of Corrections, and working on my second retirement.
While in the military, I shot comp. Bullseye and Pin comps. Loved them both. Especially the pin comps. Loved it so much I was always out collecting bowling pins from the local alleys.
I love hunting, fishing and shooting. I cast my 38 bullets and have had a lot of success with this.
Hello everyone.
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Posted: 20 August 2008 12:13 AM |
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| Bandit.. welcome to you, and thank you for your service!!
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Posted: 20 August 2008 12:42 AM |
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Bandit,
Welcome to the forum, since you are a corrections officer does that mean have moving practice targets?
Jerry
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Posted: 20 August 2008 06:46 PM |
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| bandit, i also love to shoot pins, also idpa. we are currently shooting pin tops with rimfire 3 weeks out of 4. loads of fun, cheap and you don't have to reload. the peeling of plated cases that i have experienced has been in the neck area where the case has been overworked account of belling.
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Posted: 20 August 2008 10:36 PM |
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Hey SS, I was stationed in Guam and was able to shoot pins for the first time there. About 3 months after I started shooting pins I was entered, as a joke I guess, in a match by a friend of mine. I took 1st place with 2nd place time with second place going to a person who shot about 1 second slower than me. I was shooting against the Air Force Shooting Team at the AF Base on Guam.
I thought my time of 5.8 and 5.9 was good until I say professionals later on a sports show who were shooting it in under 4. SWEEEEEET!
I really had to down load for this. Had to send off for a different set of springs for the 9mm I was using so the light loads would cycle the action.
Watched a Steel Challange once and was really impressed.
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Posted: 20 August 2008 10:38 PM |
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Not quite M.J. I don't think that kind of practice would keep a pay check comming in, lol.
Not that it wouldn't be a good idea as well as some great practice.
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Posted: 20 August 2008 10:41 PM |
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Thanks 3006 user. I did it for people just like yourself who feels that America truly stands for something.
I shoot a 7mm-08 and love it. Of course it doesn't take much for these deer in Florida.
A good 30-06 is nice too. You can cover a very wide range of loads for it from long range varmit to serious wall stud benders.
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