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Posted: 14 March 2008 01:13 PM |
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| I am trying to reload for my little 32 acp I have, and most of the data I can find is on a 71 grain bullet. I currently load for the .32 S&W long and use a 100 grain bullet. Does anyone out there know of a load for the 32 acp using the 100 grain bullet? If not does anyone know where I can find a bullet mold for a cast boolit in that weight. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Posted: 14 March 2008 01:56 PM |
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Don't have any 100 grain data. Lee produces a 93 grain RN mold that should work.
When I do load .32 ACP, I still have a big batch of Magtech JHPs I bought in bulk from Midway several years ago. Haven't takebn the time to research anything else.
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Posted: 19 March 2008 08:59 PM |
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Are you aware that the 32 ACP is listed with a .311 bullet diameter while the 32 S&W is listed as a .312 diameter. This would not be a real problem in most instances, but you are talking about a very small capacity cartridge and the use of a bullet that is 141% of the heavy bullet weight normally used in the 32 ACP, the 71 gr bullet. I do not think this is something you really want to do in an auto barrel without a fully supported web area. A detonation in such a small gun will not be nice to your hand.
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Posted: 19 March 2008 09:49 PM |
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| Wow was I out of my head when I posted that. What I was trying to find out is if anyone knows where I can find a 71gr mold for shooting out of the 32 acp. Sorry for the confusion on that must have been preoccupied when posting that.
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Posted: 20 March 2008 01:57 PM |
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You might give the Lyman site a look:
http://www.lymanproducts.com/lymanproducts/pbulleta.htm
The 311252 should be just the ticket. A RN with .311 nominal cast diameter and 75 gr weight at #2 alloy.
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Posted: 27 March 2008 08:23 PM |
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I can vouch for the Lyman 311252 bullet. I have used it for 35+ years.
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Posted: 28 March 2008 02:09 AM |
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| Trouble is can I justify the cost of a lyman mold for basically a throw away gun? I had been trying to find a Lee because of price. Thanks for the info though.
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Posted: 28 March 2008 03:10 AM |
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| Much as I hate to admit it, this is one caliber that I don't cast for. Midway lists Magtech FMJs for a little more than 8 censt apiece when bought per 100, less at teh 500 mark. Just how much are you going to shoot a .32 ACP anyway? Remington FMJs are in stock, and list for about $53/500. Doesn't really seem worth the time and effort to cast.
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Posted: 28 March 2008 04:41 PM |
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you are right about whether it is worth casting for. I have a .32 s&w that I cast for. Anytime I cast it is for more of the enjoyment of just making stuff that works accurately. Cost is another consideration. I would love to find a supply of lead bullets that are not jacketed. But figure I would ask to see if anyone might have something or knowledge.
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Posted: 30 March 2008 06:03 PM |
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if you want to try a heavier bullet in the 32acp,use the 32s&w start data.a 98 gr bullet will have the same power factor at 650 fps and the same energy at 750 fps as the 71 gr rn at 900 fps.somewhere inbetween your gun should cycle if it will feed properly.
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Posted: 14 May 2008 08:29 PM |
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Haven't tried a 100 grainer yet. Most standard factory loads I've seen (and tried) use a 71 grain FMJ or a 60 grain JHP, so I've been hesitant to try something that massive. I've loaded some 85 grain Hornady XTPs for my KelTec P32 and my wife's North American Arms Guardian. The powder charge I use is 3.2 grains of Power Pistol, with a light taper crimp in the cannalure. While I haven't expansion tested or chronographed the load yet, it seems authoritative, but without any signs of being hard on the gun or brass. It's reasonably accurate (which is about as good as it gets in the P32) - plenty good enough for self-defense at 7-10 yards.
Interestingly, the P32 doesn't appear to be a straight blowback design. Rather, it's stikingly similar to Glock's locked breech design wherein the slide and barrel are locked together briefly as recoil drives them rearward, long enough (in theory) for the bullet to exit the barrel and chamber pressure to subside to a safe level. It's a cute little shooter, very inobstrusive. I practice with it frequently and pack it around with me quite often, CCW style, with exceptional comfort.
I'd love to see Speer market some "snake loads" for the .32ACP. Last rattler I shot while hiking down a hill to a fishing hole was KO'd with a .22 magnum shot load at about 10 feet, out of a Davis .22 Mag derringer. That, I think, was pushing the limit for that round and that gun. A heftier round wouldn't have killed that buzzworm any deader, but it would've made me feel more confident. That's gotta be worth something.
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Posted: 30 July 2008 01:30 AM |
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How do you ever find the brass? Seriously. I was all ready to load for this bugger, but I lost like 40 cases out of 50 the first day at the range.
Gun is a Keltec P32. Besides, I only shoot 100 or so a year!
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Posted: 31 July 2008 05:21 PM |
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I was losing almost all my brass until I figured out how to adjust where I stand in the firing "booth" at the indoor range so that when the brass is ejected, it bounces off the lane divider and lands on the floor behind me. With that adjustment, my recovery rate for brass with the Kel-Tec P32 rose to about 85% - still lose a few. They're somewhat easier to find when shooting out in the desert - most of them go in the same general direction, so if I find one, I can find most of 'em nearby. I bought 500 rounds of Mag Tech brass from Midway just to be sure I'd have enough to survive that 15% loss rate for a while. I love shooting that little booger - it's like a .22 on steroids.
Chronographed an 85 grain Hornady XTP HP on top of 2.0 grains of Tite Group a while back over my Shooting Chrony. It turned in an average of 794 fps - a bit pokier than I thought it would be. It feels more authoritative than that. I don't know yet if it will expand at that velocity, but the extra mass should translate into added momentum for a bit more penetration. By way of comparisons, Federal HydraShoks gave an average of 809 fps - not that much more velocity, but they gave uniform, full expansion against 2-liter plastic water bottles. Speer 60 grain Gold Dot hollow points loaded over 2.6 grains of Tite Group averaged 964 fps. Winchester's 60 grain Silver Tip hollow point clocked in at 783 fps and failed to expand against the water bottles.
Call me a chicken, but I'm going to resist the temptation to try a 100 grain bullet in the .32 ACP. I think the 85 grain jacketed round is pushing the envelope about as far as I care to go. It's a noticeably stout load in the Kel-Tec, although the gun holds together OK and the brass shows no excess pressure signs. I don't recommend it for everyday shooting/target practice, or for anything else for that matter. I don't think the gun was designed for much beyond the standard 71 grain FMJ. I plan to water-test the 85 grain load just to see if it expands, and that'll probably be the end of the line for that experiment. For CCW/defense use, I stick to the name-brand factory-loaded hollow points. They all go bang, feed and extract reliably.
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Posted: 1 August 2008 03:27 AM |
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| Most of my .32 ACP shooting is done in a caliche (clay) pit, barren ground, but I still loose about 7%.
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Posted: 6 October 2008 08:26 PM |
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SCSlim wrote: ... Chronographed an 85 grain Hornady XTP HP on top of 2.0 grains of Tite Group a while back over my Shooting Chrony. It turned in an average of 794 fps - a bit pokier than I thought it would be. It feels more authoritative than that. I don't know yet if it will expand at that velocity ...
Hello!
I'm reloading the .32 ACP for a Beretta 81 BB pistol. I tried this bullet with Vihtavuori 3N37. I got 269 m/s (882 fps) with 3.1 grains of that powder. I applied a light crimp in the groove. Cases are Fiocchi's (GFL) and primers are CCI SP.
For reloading, I resized the bullet from .312" to .309" using a Lee resizing die. European pistols are closer to .308" in diameter, where american pistols are more likely in .311" or .312" in bore diameter.
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Posted: 2 November 2008 07:15 PM |
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I've never tried any of the Vihtavuori powders. Don't know why, really. It's readily available here in Boise - several outlets sell a number of formulations. Maybe I'm just mystified by the way they name their powders. There must be a Rosetta Stone to decode what the names mean, but for me, they're just not as straight-forward as "Power Pistol" or "Unique".
However, I hereby vow to try some Vihtavuori powder in the coming year - that is if we're still able to own guns and load our own ammo after the next president is sworn in.
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