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armoredman
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Posted: 16 April 2008 05:55 PM |
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| Only 5 years loading, had my first squib, seized up the cylinder of my Smith 10-8 tight, thought it was a dud primer. I got it back out of the barrel with a cleaning rod I carry in the range bag for just this happenstance, but it threw me off the rest of that string of fire! Sidearm is fine, passed all function tests with flying colors. Made me resolve to quadruple check all powder loads from now on...
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wheezengeezer
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Posted: 16 April 2008 08:17 PM |
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| i have had that happen twice in 30 years.the 357 went all the way into the barrel,the 44mag just locked it up.now i prefer to check ALL powder levels.
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jjb2
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Posted: 20 April 2008 01:28 PM |
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| been lucky i guess... i've never had a reload round not go boom at the proper time... BUT i always check powder levels in each case before i seat the bullet... i use bullseye for .357 mag loads and you have to look into the loading block full of cases to make sure there are no double charges.... some of you guys that use progressive presses might have more trouble doing it than i as i load with two single stage presses at the same time... works for me! glad everything came out alright for ya.
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264shooter
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Posted: 20 April 2008 05:33 PM |
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| I have never had a lack of powder cause me any troubles,but on 4 or 5 instances in 40 years of reloading I have had primers fail to ignite.I also use a single stage press and visually check all my cases for powder before seating a bullet.With rifle loads I weigh each powder drop and bring up to the weight with a trickler.Not so with pistol powders that meter consistently
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SavageMOA
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Posted: 21 April 2008 02:31 AM |
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| Ok, how can you tell that a round is still stuck in the barrel. I ask because, lets say i fire a shot and unknowingly the round doesn't exit the barrel. If i fire the next shot, what will happen and is there a way to tell that a bullet doesn't leave the barrel?
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jjb2
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Posted: 21 April 2008 03:05 AM |
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| if you pull the trigger and something don't feel or sound right ALWAYS check to be sure you don't have a bullet lodged in barrel of your gun... it will probably a catastrophic failure if you pull the trigger on a gun with a bullet stuck in it.... might even cause injury to you! there are more people here who know more about the subject than i but i do know it aint good!
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Charley
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Posted: 21 April 2008 03:28 AM |
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I've had one squib, on a 9x19 right after buying my first Dillon 550.Primer but no powder, in a Kel-Tec P-11. A friend was shooting it, I heard the weak report, and shouted for him to stop shooting. Bullet was slightly driven into the throat, and case didnt't eject. Wouldn't have been catastrophic, except in a gunfight.
I did ring a barrel on a '94 Winchester. Was using a cartridge adapter for .32 ACP, and had some ammo loaded for Mrs. Charley's KT P-32. Fired and functioned fine in a 2 inch barrel, didn't have quit enough pop to exit a 20 incher. I fired, didn't see an impact, and being distracted with Mrs. Charley, fired atwpo more rounds before I realized bullets weren't exiting. Wasn't much of a ring, and was located about 1 1/2 inches from the muzzle. The rifle is now a trapper, with the barrel cut back to 161/2 inches!
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sako06
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Posted: 21 April 2008 04:56 AM |
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| When reloading do you check all of your cases to make sure the powder is in the case?I look at all of my reloads before setting bullets.Hard to do with my progressive 12g shotgun loader but the sound is a give away that either no powder or a very light load that leaves a wad in the barrel.
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saddlesore
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Posted: 21 April 2008 06:22 PM |
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I load on a Dillon progressive. I probably load 5-6000 every winter. It is not un common for me to get 1-2 squibs. I either short stoke the press on something.
Semis usualy just get stuck at the chamber, and it is no problem as the action won't cycle. Revolvers may or may not clear the chamber. You always listen to your rounds and if it doesn't feel or soundr ight, you cease fire. However,you always keep your firearm pointed down range for 8-10 seconds to insure a hang fire does not exist.
I keep a 1/4 " dia fiberglass rod in my shooting box for such an occasion, to drive the bullet out
Yes. very bad things can happen if a bullet is stuck in the barrel and you fire another one.
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sako06
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Posted: 21 April 2008 07:37 PM |
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| I have a Dillon RL550B that I reload with but I use a OHAUS DUO 7200 Powder Measure I bought when I started reloading in the 1970's.Found another on ebay and bought it so I can set it up to load either rifle or pistol since it's designed for either.
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armoredman
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Posted: 21 April 2008 08:54 PM |
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Sako, I keep a flashlight on my bench JUST for checking powder levels. I can only think something distracted me badly enough for me to have missed this, which is why my son is instructed to only interrupt me if the house is on fire.
I always know if a bullet exits - the backstops are very fluffy, much churned dirt, and there is ALWAYS a puff of dust. 
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sako06
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Posted: 22 April 2008 04:49 PM |
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| I've loaded some ammo with a used primer,upside down primer,no primer ,shotshells with no powder since my powder hopper was empty & I failed to notice it on my Pacific DL 366 Progressive Reloader( CA Company bought by Hornaday).When I started reloading my 06 ammo friends told me if I was using IMR 4831 I could almost just dip the case in it and it wouldn't be an over load.Some of my 59gr imr 4831 compressed loads had powder to the top of the neck.The OHAUS DUO 7200 was the most accurate mechanical powder measure made using flake & ball powder but they cost over twice as much as any others on the market in the 70's.
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dirtrooster
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Posted: 27 July 2008 01:12 AM |
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ive had a weak report before in my 41 mag but bullet had made it out the barrel. a freind of mine had one with his 357 and bullet had lodged in barrel about halfway. he had the presence of mind to stop firing and check, showed up at my house with what do i do know lol. we were able to push it out with a rod. ive always loaded brass cartriges on single stage loader and drop powder in 50 at a time before seating bullets so i can stand up and look down all of em to see if all uniform levels of powder.
i do use a progresive shot shell loader and have dumped shot out of barrel on trap range before kind of embarising primer but no powder. on shotgun make shure and run rod thru to get wad out before resuming fire.
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sako06
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Posted: 27 July 2008 03:00 AM |
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| When I lived in Hornell,NY I saw a Ruger 22 revolver with a bulge in the barrel & asked the owner what happened,he said he fired a round that didn't clear the barrel & the next one bulged it .Even with the noticeable bulge the owner said it was still accurate to hunt with.
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miestro_jerry
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Posted: 27 July 2008 06:33 AM |
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Sako,
Most likely this pistol had a barrel obstruction, at the moment, I can not think of another eason for a barrel bulge.
I had a friend with a Colt Python a few years ago, he had a reload that didn't have any powder in one shell. The next one did. The barrel bulged.
As to accuracy for hunting, it depends on what you are hunting as well as what range.
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Last edited on 27 July 2008 06:33 AM by miestro_jerry
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xxmaa
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Posted: 21 August 2008 10:17 PM |
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| I once owned a colt frontier buntline ,I traded a friend a colt scout ,toget buntline. The buntline had a ring about three inches from muzzel, and was very accurite with all loads (22mag-short) I loved shooting jack rabbit with shorts in it. wish I still had it.
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xxmaa
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Posted: 29 August 2008 11:57 PM |
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armor thats much better than the other hand ,DOUBLE load That can end your gun.where possible my power choice will be one that will absolutely over flow if murffy sneaks in
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dnelson457
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Posted: 7 September 2008 05:38 AM |
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Meet a Guy at the range who weighs ever round before he puts it in his box. Knows what a Primed Brass and bullet weighs. So if powder is no correct it will show by weight.
He was letting me know this while he cleared his pistol of a Squib. Only thing he can figure is bad primer did not give full ignition.
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NWPilgrim
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Posted: 22 October 2008 09:03 PM |
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When loading on my single stage I examine all the ccases in the bloc ofr having the same powder level before bullet seating.
On the turret press, as the ram bottoms out from the expander/powder fill stroke, I inspect the powder level of each case before placing the bullet on the mouth.
I have also switched to a slower powder than my former W231 for non-magnum loads. now I use Uniique or Universal and they fill the case about two thirds. This makes it almost impossible to double charge, and easy to see the powder level from an angle.
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Dirtkicker
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Posted: 22 October 2008 10:56 PM |
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I used to load great quantities of .38 Special wadcutters for PPC competition on my Dillon 550. Could get as many as 1:1000 no-powder squibs. I carried a .25" fiberglass or wood rod, capped on both ends with .25ACP cases, and a little mallet in my range box. If I got a squib during a match I would drive it out, reload, and finish the stage. Never dropped a stage due to a squib!
Now I use my Dillon as a "2-stage" press. I size, prime, and bell on the first two stations with no powder in the measure. I inspect each case for a primer and put it in a loading block. When the block is full I drop powder and then check each case with a small maglite. Takes only a second or two with a block of 60 rounds. The last two stations of the Dillon then are used. I seat and then crimp. Takes a little longer this way but I don't need the great quantities of ammo like in the old days. I can easily do a couple hundred an hour this way. And I NEVER get a squib.
With a low pressure target load there is very little likelihood of damage resulting from a squib followed by a single normal round. Depending on the gun of course. Still, it's a big no-no to fire a second round after a dud. It's hard to believe that someone would not notice a dud, but it happens.
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