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Posted: 12 July 2008 07:55 PM |
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Does anyone have load data for laser cast 158gr RNFP .38 special and .357 magnum?
I went to Oregon Trail web site and found nothing. None of my books have anything.
I plan to use Unique powder.
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Posted: 12 July 2008 08:01 PM |
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| Any 158gr lead bullet data should work just fine.
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Posted: 13 July 2008 06:34 PM |
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I like 231 Powder, have used it for many years.
The starting load should be something like 3.2 grains of 231 and the max load should be 3.7 grains for 38 Spl.
For Unique, I would consider a 3.9 grain load sort of middle of the road and a good starting point.
Hope this helps,
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Posted: 13 July 2008 10:09 PM |
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| Speer #13 lists 3.8/4.3 for lead 158s with 231. 4.0/4.7 for Unique.
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jim85255
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Posted: 14 July 2008 12:10 AM |
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Guys,
Thanks for the info.
This the first time I have tried the Laser-cast bullets. I will start
with 3.8 and see how that load shots.
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Jim
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Posted: 14 July 2008 02:23 AM |
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the bullets i cast from my old lyman 358477 mould are 150 gr. swcs and use 158 gr. data to them... i use bullseye and go with 3.2 grs. for .38 spl and 6-6.2 grs. for .357 magnum loads.... there is load data on the alliant powder site and i have it on my favroites just in cases i wonder about what guys are loading...
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Posted: 14 July 2008 02:41 AM |
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Life is too short, I don't always use the Internet for reference, but do keep notes and old loading manuals.
158gr Lead bullets
Bullseye Start 2.8 Max 4.2
Unique Start 3.4 Max 5.1
231 Start 3.5 Max 4.9
SR-4756 Start 4.2 Max 5.5
HP38 Start 2.6 Max 4.3
Blue Dot Start 5.9 Max 7.8
These are from my Lyman Reloading Handbook #47. There is a #48 and #49 out, but I find this one still works well with all of my reloading, I cross checks the loads with the Internet and other manuals.
Plus the Bullet Makers will give the data for a specific caliber, and the powder people do this also. I have loading data for all of the Barnes bullets that I use, the same with Sierra.
Jerry
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Posted: 14 July 2008 03:09 AM |
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Jerry,
Thank you very much. I made a copy of your reply and will use it.
Do you have a favority powder for .38 special target shooting?
Thanks again,
Jim
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Posted: 14 July 2008 04:04 AM |
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Jim,
I use a Lyman 150gr WC (Bullet Mold #358091) cast from my WW Plus alloy, most of the time I use 3.5 gr of 231. In the past I have used Bullseye, 3.2 grains. I size to .358 and use 50/50 lube or some of my home made stuff. If you are going to cast your own and want some really consistent bullets, only use one cavity of the mold and have a really tight routine on your casting methods. It does make a difference, but you have to try it to see if it works for you.
My pistol from target shooting is a S&W 586 with a 6 inch barrel, that had a trigger job done to it many years ago. But out of the box it was shooting tight groups. Because the purpose of target shooting is to punch paper, low velocities and low energy is not a problem.
Hope this helps,
Jerry
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Posted: 15 July 2008 02:54 AM |
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Jerry,
Thank you for the information. It does help.
I appreciate your advice.
Jim
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Posted: 10 October 2008 01:44 AM |
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From my LaserCast reloading manual:
.38 Special, 158 gr rnfp, Unique, OAL = 1.450"
Start: 3.8 gr, 732 FPS
Max: 5.0 gr, 976
.357 magnum: no data given
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Posted: 10 October 2008 03:15 AM |
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| I have used thousands of lasercast bullets.They work very well and leading is minimal even at maximum velocity for lead bullets.Thier alloy is supposed to never lead a bore.I have never had any leading in anything I reload with thier bullets.I load for two 38s,one 357,one 44 mag and a 45lc.I dont really hotrod any of them but I do load hot now and then.Just treat them like a lead bullet and enjoy...Robin
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Posted: 11 October 2008 03:27 PM |
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231, Unique and Hodgon's Univerasl Clays are all pretty close to burn rates. However,I have found the Universal Clays is so much cleaner burning. I can run 300 + rounds through my revolver or semi and never get fouling problems that lock up the extractor ring or cylinder.
For all three powders Iuse 3.5 gr in the 38 and 4.5 in the.357 for all my cast the bullets. Can't see why Laser cast are any differnt.
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