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Speer 250 SWC
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 Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2009 01:55 AM
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Anyone shooting these in their 45 Colts?  I tried some, and they left a ton of lead in the barrel.  Shot a cylinder over the chronograph, 6 averaged 818 fps from my 4 5/8" Blackhawk.  The barrel had been cleaned before shooting with foaming bore cleaner to get the copper out after the last shooting.  I used to shoot Magnus 255 RNFP's, but couldnt find any, so tried the Speers.  I mean, they left so much lead in the barrel, my Foul-Out unit went into overload four times before it came clean.  I didnt think I was pushing them that hard, surprised me.  I shoot the Speer 230 LRN in both my 45 ACP's, and they dont lead much at all.  The Magnus 255's never left lead like this and I was running them at an average of 887 fps.  Just wondering if I got a bad batch or if these things do this for everyone.



 Posted: Tue Mar 31st, 2009 02:50 AM
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Sorry, HD, I haven't had that problem. Don't know what to tell ya. You sure about your velocity?



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There is something else going on here to cause this difference. Check your velocity, has the barrel been swabed out with a good solvent before firing, are you doing anything different?

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everything else being equal try a slower powder or even black powder ( which still thumps in the 45 colt btw )



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Barrel was clean, real clean before I fired the first lot of these.  After about 100 rounds of lead bullets, I will run a cylinder of Speer 260 JHP's thru to help push the lead out.  I then clean with Hoppes #9, clean the bore with foaming copper solvent, then when I cant see anymore copper in the bore, I remove the remaining lead with the Outers Foul Out.

I was just surprised that they left that much lead, I have run the Speer 230 LRN's in 2 different ACP's and they hardly lead at all at roughly the same velocity.  Like I said earlier, the Magnus 255 RNFP's hardly left any lead at all.  Maybe I just got a batch that was too soft.

 



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ALL swaged bullets are soft! Try  cast bullets, and you will probably get better results at that velocity. I find if I try to push swaged bullets much over 750 FPS or so leading is going to happen.

I don't shoot swaged bullets for this reason.



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what kind of lube did you use?they only have a shallow knurled groove dont tney?



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Come prelubed with a dry lube that they say wont burn off.  Found some Magnus 250 RNFP's, finally.  Gonna order those up and once I shoot the rest of the Speers, I am done with them.  The Speers were very accurate, just dont feel like dealing with that much lead when I dont have to with a hard cast bullet.

 

The 'graph is a fairly new CED, which has never given me any trouble, everything else seems to be running where it should, so the lead these Speers left was a surprise.

Last edited on Tue Mar 31st, 2009 10:48 PM by Hawk Driver



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