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I just picked up a box of 158 Grain Semi-Jacketed Soft Point (flat head) bullets.
I am using Bullseye powder and can't find specific data on this bullet. My reloading guides have data on 158 grain sjhp but not necessarily with bullseye powder.
So basically, what is a good start and max load for the .38 special and .357 magnum using those components.
Bullseye Powder
158g Semi-Jacketed Soft Point.
Edit- Title should read "two loads". I'm not illiterate I promise!
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What kind of load are you looking for?
Bullseye is probably to hot a powder for .357.
Might work OK in .38 spec. but for a high power load in .357 I would rather choose a slower powder.
For target work you might rather choose another bullet type.
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It would be a magnum load for target shooting. It was the only jacketed bullet I could find for the caliber.
What powder would you suggest for a .357 load?
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For .357 Mag loads, I would suggest IMR 4227 or 2400, these two powder are really the best for the 357 Mags. I use both of these with both CB and Jacketed bullets. These are also useful powders for the 44 Mag and 357 MAX loads.
There are other powders for the 357 Mag, like WW 296 and H110, but they do not have the range of weights that will help you find an accurate load. example, min load 16.3 grain, max load is 17.0 grain, not much range between the min and the max.
Hope this helps,
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for the .38 special 3.0grs.(Start) to 3.4 (MAX) of bullseye using a 158gr. LSWC would work fine. I can't find any data using a jacketed round:( and what mistro said for full blown loads. curious why would you want to shoot .357 loads for just target and plinking? What firearm will you be using? Last edited on Fri Jun 26th, 2009 02:45 AM by tac_driver
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i've used bullseye for those 2 calibers forever...... 6.8 for a starting load in .357 mag seems excessive...... my load is 6-6.2 grs of bullseye behind a hard cast 150 gr swc........ this load chonograghs right at 1230-1238 fps consistantly.... these are shot from a 6" s&w model 27.... i have had no problem with accuracy......... i like to use 3-3.2 grs. of bullseye behind the same bullet for my 38 spl loads.... again accuracy is good..... i have used both standard and magnum primers with these but you can get bullseye to go off with standard primers just fine..... one thing.... when useing bullseye be careful not get a double charge in a case............. i always hold up the loading block under a good light and check to make sure all cases are filled to the same level........ like the others have said you really don't need full power gee golly whiz bang loads to plink with... sometimes a lighter load is more accurate too..............
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joshua08401 wrote: It would be a magnum load for target shooting. It was the only jacketed bullet I could find for the caliber.
What powder would you suggest for a .357 load?
when using jacketed bullets I would use heavy loads, and still accurate ones.
I would always suggest Vihtavuori powders (most popular in Europe), in this case the N110 series. Still a bit flexible (compared to other magnum powders) and clean.
Using 14 grs. for starters seems to be a good idea.
Do not use Mag primers.
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The 6.8g would be the max load with 6.1 being cited as a starting load much like someone above suggested. I think I will try a couple with 6.0-6.1 g.
To answer a couple other questions, I mainly shoot a .38 load for target practice, but sometimes I like to blast off a few magnums just because it is fun!
I normally had 158 grain LRN bullets that I've read your not supposed to make magnum loads with so I picked up a box of the semi-jacketed so I could make some extra noise at the range.
I have a Dan Wesson .357 Mag. with a 6" barrel for my magnums and a S&W .38 Special Model 36 2" barrel (non +P).
I've been using 3.1g of bullseye for my .38 load and that has been working fine.
I think I will pick up a box of wadcutters on my next supply trip.
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Unique works very well for a wide range of standard and magnum loads. Unique loads are listed in almost every loading manual.
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I have read the Lyman book which says 3.0 to 3.4 Bullseye for 158 LSWC. However, the Hornady manual goes up to 3.7 max.
What would an appropriate 38+P load be for Bullseye and 158 LSWC? I want something in lead to approximate a 38+p defense load, but not go into "light" 357 magnum.
Any ideas?
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One of the first pressure signs you encounter when loading for a revolver is difficult extraction of the empty brass. Another is cratered primers dragging on the recoil shield when the cylinder is rotated to index an already fired case. Different brands or designs of bullets can and will cause differences in pressure, also different firearms will show differences in pressures. Also different brands of primers and different lots of powders are different. These differences cause reloading manuals to differ slightly. +p loads are loaded to the maximum safe pressures for the components used. Without sophisticated pressure testing equipment it is imperative for a handloader to start by reducing maximum charges by 10% and working up slowly and carefully to the desired velocity. This is something you must do yourself. Until then keep your loads mild and safe.
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