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Production rate on Dillon ?
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On the average, using a Dillon 550 without a case feeder, how long does it take you to load 200 handgun cartridges ?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
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 Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 11:33 PM
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With the various Dillon Precision presses the factory quotes expected production rates per hour.

Square Deal       350

550                    500

650                    800

1050               1,000

Many of us have timed ourselves over short production burst -- maybe 50 or 100 rounds -- and thought we were doing pretty good.

Now, let's add in the time to refill primer and powder hoppers, clear out ut-ohs, figure out why something isn't working right, etc...

What is our actual production rate over 1,000 rounds ?


In the poll, used 200 rounds so it would require refilling the primer feed.  Wasn't sure how many folks have ever loaded 1,000 cases in one sitting.

Not sure how common the new case feed option is on the 550, but figured there were still a lot of 550s without one.

The Dillon quoted rate would take about 24 minutes to load 200 rounds on the 550.


 

Talked to a commercial loader who is using 1050s with hired help.  Given everything, he is actually averaging about 1,000 per hour on handgun cartridges -- less on rifle.  His production rate times are based on several years and several million rounds of loaded ammo.  Rifle ammo takes longer than handgun due to both case lube and due to worker fatigue (thicker case necks and walls to resize).  Trimming, deburring, and chamfering cases adds enormously to the time per 1,000.

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Great having you back around Hammer!

 

Last time actually timing myself I was a little quicker, but I'd consider this (35min) as average.  But it also depends on which caliber I'm loading for, the powder charge, and primer size.  I find that small primers do not feed as well as large primers(maybe just my set-up).  A powder charge that is really close to filling cartridge is easier to check.  Rimmed cases like the 44Mag index better(again, maybe just my set-up).

 

How many hits are you up to on reloading room site?

 

 

 

 

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 Posted: Sat Aug 8th, 2009 11:49 PM
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Between 800 and 850 rounds per hour with 223 ammo on the Dillon Super 1050.

 

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Don't know how many hits.

Do you know ?

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There are so many variables to the time it takes to load X rounds on X machine. The machines have to be adjusted to very fine trim, especially on the priming system, or flipped primers ruin your average. Rifle ammo differs with commercial, once fired mil, or fully prepped mil. If you have to do the prepping, you can subract a great deal from your actual loading time average, I.E depriming/resizing and primer crimp swaging, once that is done, you can really cook on a 550. Prep time really should be deducted from your average times, like it or not it is still time used to load those cartridges.

If I'm going to load a real big batch and I usually do, I'll load up 10 primer tubes at one time and I've got all the components right there at hand.

For instance, I can realistically average about 250 per hour on the square deal b if I'm using jacketed bullets, a little slower on cast bullets. Still much much better than a single stage press.

On my 550 I can realistically average 325 or maybe 350 per hour on 223 or 308, if Im loading commercial brass, boat tail bullets, slower if using flat base. If I'm loading fully prepped mil brass and boat tail bullets, I can cruise at 425 to 475 per hour.

I'll let you know later on the 650 or 1050, I haven't decided which one to get yet.



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umm prep work has to count as loading time lolz so that includes trimming, loading primer tubes etc because here in the real world it works like that ,i've used dillons presses but i dont own one i also found that i tend to go slower than however fast a company says it's presses will load ( i am after safety among other things ) counting prep time on the 1050 i used it took me about 3 hours to load 1500 223's so average 500 hour ( did it twice and the results were about the same )the 45 acp's a lil over an hour to load 500( user results will vary depending on the user's methods-after all there is more to it than just pulling the handle )



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200 rounds on a Dillon 550 takes about 20-25 minutes for pistol, little more for rifle.

Have a 550 for 308 and 30-06 rifle plus small custom loads.

Have 4 1050s with bullet feeders and automatic actuator drive.

Load commercially for 9mm, 357 SIG, 40, 10mm, 45, 38 Spl plus 223, 308, and 30-06.

1050s are set to run 1900 rounds per hour. All we do is top off components in the feeders and keep an eye on things.

Our max output is about 61,000 rounds per day. Max output for annual production is just shy of 16 million rounds of pistol. Max output for the 308 and 30-06 loads is just shy of one million rounds annually. Running full bore we can do around 17 million rounds a year.



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