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jjb2
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Posted: 6 April 2008 07:11 PM |
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she was playing a computer game last night where she had to piut a red dot on the bad guys and push a button on the key board to take out the target... i watched a bit then it came to me she would have no idea what a real handgun would feel like to shoot so i asked her if she would like to shoot my model 27 sometime.... her face kinda brightened up and she said she'd love to try it..... she's a big girl for 12 but i still think i'd start her off with some .38 spl reloads and then let her try some stouter .357 mag loads if she'd like.... i worry about her dropping my gun so i guess i'd have to help her hold it the first coupla cylinders full........ anyone else guided a youngster this way... can i get some suggestions?? i have a feeling the real shots from a real gun will be an eye opener for her..........
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Dirtkicker
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Posted: 6 April 2008 07:40 PM |
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| I've started quite a few kids on shooting. I would NEVER start a kid with anything bigger than a .22 rimfire. You'll be building in a flinch reaction that you may never cure. I would also want to use the .22 to instill in them some iron-bound rules and procedures for handgun shooting. They should have the Four Rules down pat before they ever handle a real gun. Just my opinion.
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Charley
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Posted: 6 April 2008 10:58 PM |
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| If not a .22, at least some cowboy action level .38 Specials, or lighter. Wouldn't use factory ammunition for teaching.
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jjb2
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Posted: 7 April 2008 02:03 AM |
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| i have some real light loaded .38 spls to shoot for her... they are 148 gr hbwcs over 2.7 grs. of bullseye i think.. i'd have to look at the lable on the box to be sure but i know they are less than 3 grs....... i loaded them for my wife to shoot in her treasured old colt det spl she inherited from her father... if i wrecked that little handgun there would be h*ll to pay! i think they are about like a flea fart in the n-frame smith 6"............................
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pegleg4570
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Posted: 7 April 2008 06:36 AM |
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Start those youngsters on 22's.
Then get a Gun that fits their hand, and will not be too much Gun for them to handle.
They are the future of our sport, and we don't need to scare them off by handing them a weapon they cannot handle.
 
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jjb2
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Posted: 10 April 2008 06:31 AM |
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| you guys are probably right... i should start her off by shooting the 1022 to see how it goes... i gotta find a way to sneak her out to shoot maybe with my son (her dad) without her mom finding out till it's done... i know she'd have a cow if she knew before hand..... my grand daughter is about 5'4" and not what you call that pitite(sp)but she's not chunky either... she's really pretty strong and her hands and feet are bigger than mine but i'm kind of a shrimp... it would be fun to get her started shooting.....
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Charley
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Posted: 10 April 2008 12:37 PM |
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| Why would her mom have an problem with her daughter learning to shoot?
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crazy2medic
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Posted: 10 April 2008 01:56 PM |
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| when my boy was about five he showed a real interest in his mom's taurus mdl85 so to preclude any ideas on his part, I took him out let him shoot it, when he fired the first cylinder the light of curiosity went out! the light of respect came on! never had any problems. he'll shoot just about anything now, but that little .38 was a learning experience for him! guns are not TOYS! get her some hearing protection and let her puts some 38's down range she'll be fine!
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jjb2
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Posted: 11 April 2008 03:32 AM |
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Charley wrote: Why would her mom have an problem with her daughter learning to shoot?
my daughter-in-law is real freaky about some things... she would not be pleased if she knew we were taking her oldest daughter to a shooting range.... i'm thinkin my grand daughter would have a ball though..... my son liked to go an shoot once in great while with me but since he's been married his attidude has changed some too toward guns....i do hope my grand daughter gets a chance to experience a real gun soon though..........
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Black-tailed Bandit
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Posted: 11 April 2008 02:17 PM |
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maybe you need to take the mother out shooting too. Explain that shooting is a lot like golf, it a competition against your self, example a 1" group is like shooting a "par 4" Or like pool just figuring out how to put the ball in the pocket. I'm sure the that you will find that once you get momma to understand this it will be a whole different story. Hopefully you will gain TWO shooting partners. People are afraid of what they do not understand the key is getting them to understand to they are not scared any more.
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sako06
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Posted: 11 April 2008 04:44 PM |
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| I took my 10 yr old grandson to the range and let him fire my 1991A1 with a Wilson 22 conversion kit installed,I was shooting my Ruger BH with 4 5/8 inch barrel in 45lc using cowboy loads which he wanted to try but after 3 rounds he handed it back,I've let him shoot my Rossi Mod 88 SS 2" with some Fed match 38 spec wadcutter loads.He wanted to shoot my S&W Mod 19 357 but I told him it has too much recoil.I also introduced him to my Marlin Mod 60 22 semi, Ruger 10-22 target rifle,Browning 22 semi auto & Rem Nylon 11 bolt action with a weaver 4 power 22 scope.Initially he said he wanted to shoot my Marlin XLR in 45-70 until he tried to pick it up and then saw me shoot it,he changed his mind!
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Posted: 15 April 2008 06:42 AM |
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| My 7 year old niece has been shooting a .357 mag for over a year, she usualy shoots .38 spl rounds. She loves it and she is tiny like her mother. The only problem she has is the gun is to heavy for her. She can't handle to many shots because her hands are to small.
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Posted: 15 April 2008 06:47 AM |
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| The most important thing is hearing protection. Most kids develop a flinch because of the sound, not the recoil.
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jjb2
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Posted: 16 April 2008 07:39 AM |
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| hearing and eye protection is always a must when i'm at the range! the only projectile weapon i will shoot with out hearing protection is my air rifle... it's getting warmer here finally and i'm getting antsy to get to the range again... i bet she would get a kick out of shooting my .17 hm2 savage mkII too.....
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Darkmeat
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Posted: 23 April 2008 07:17 PM |
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If you think she can handle a .38, I say go for it!
The first gun I ever shot was a P226, the first one I owned that I shot was my SKS(my first and so far only rifle, but I love it). I pretty much learned ot shoot from that.
Hearing protection and eye protection are musts. As is understanding the four rules.
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Posted: 24 April 2008 01:57 PM |
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both of my daughters (ages 8 and 5) have been shooting ar-15's from the age of 4, and both shoot centerfire rifles well now, but for handguns they just shoot my single action ruger and that is more than enough gun.
i encourage youngsters to shoot as much as they can, but starting them off on centerfire handguns is a mistake. i remember when i was maybe 12 and my uncle took my brother and me out to shoot his 357. now, we were big kids, always the biggest in our class at school or on the various teams we played on (football, baseball, and soccer), and i remember touching that beast off and the recoil being absolutely terrifying. given that experience it is difficult to believe we did not grow up anti-gunners (mom getting us memberships to the nra is possibly the only thing that salvaged us).
anyway, for the handgun, just use a 22 and don't be afraid to double her up on the hearing protection.
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jjb2
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Posted: 22 August 2008 02:54 AM |
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i got a great deal on a ruger mkII target model so now i have a .22 cal handgun my grand daughter can shoot.... the only thing i worry about is haveing her shoot an auto so i'd just put one round in the magazine at a time....
LIFE IS SHORT....
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Posted: 27 August 2008 04:55 PM |
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| Teach the kids the fundamentals and show them. My 12 yr old shoots a 454 casull and my 8 yr old shoots a 44 spec. Let them try. Just teach them from a young age to respect what they are doing, be it guns or homework.
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Posted: 28 August 2008 03:10 AM |
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| There is a differnce in shooting a .357 or any centerfire handgun and making the bulletsg o down range,vs shooting them accureatle. You would be setting her up to develope a flinch, no matter how big she is. Start small and work up.
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Posted: 30 August 2008 03:43 PM |
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My dad started me out on an old Remington bolt-action single shot with .22 shorts out at the dump (remember when folks could shoot out at the dump?). I was about 5 years old. One of his buddies helped me fire a round from his nickle-plated Gubmint Model .45 back then. I remember the recoil being pretty stout, but I didn't drop the gun. Later, when I was 12, my dad let me save up for a Sears 12-gauge single shot. I hunted deer first with a surplus sporterized 7.62x54 Mosin Nagant when I was 13 (Norma loaded hunting ammo in that caliber back then), and later with a SMLE in .303. Never shot a handgun bigger than a .22 until I was 21, when I bought a Smith Model 27 for work (except for an old .36 Navy Colt clone that I had for a while).
When my kids came along, I started them out on a .22 Chipmunk rifle. My daughter never cared to progress beyond that, but my son transitioned easily to .380/9mm, .38/.357, then .45ACP. He never got all that good with the .45, but he enjoyed shooting it. When it came time for deer hunitng, I bought him an SKS and fitted it with a 5-round magazine. He was a pretty fair hand with that little carbine. I let him shoot one of my .44 mags, but he never cared for it.
I'm hoping to introduce the grandsons to the pleasures of shooting and handloading when the time comes, although I know my son still shoots and may take care of that. Still, it would do this grandpa's heart good to pass the tradition along once more.
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