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My 1911(Para High Cap P14 Frame with Colt slide) is very awkward for concealed carry..I do carry it concealed but it is noticeable if someone is looking.
My Sig P229 is much more carry friendly and it is deadly accurate..
But I still like the ability to sling 14 ,230 grain each ashtrays when the SHTF..
I bear with the size and weight for the added firepower...
I`ve seen what M92`s do against a two legged attacker.I am not downing a 9mm at all.With the correct bullet it is more than enough,.I`ve only seen what FMJ ball ammo does..
The 40 cal in my Sig is plenty of power..but
as Elmer Keith said
"carry enough gun"
..the 1911 fits that bill 
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| Posted: Fri Oct 10th, 2008 11:36 AM |
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Guess I'm lucky, my size (6'3" and 240 or so) makes it no problem to conceal a double stack like my Para. IWB, with a pullover shirt, even a heavy T shirt, and I'm good to go. Never been made.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 12th, 2008 09:10 PM |
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It is hard to beat a good snubnose .38 for carry.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 18th, 2008 04:38 AM |
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As far as "bigger is better" is concerned, that is not always true a concealed weapon. If a person has a weapon that is too big that he is afraid of shooting it at practice, what would happen if he was to have to use in a real life threating situation?
My father was in the OSS in WWII. They issued them HS .22 cal with built-in silencers. They didn't have to use them too up close for this would defete the purpose. My point is any caliber will kill. Conceale carry weapons are intened to be used up close and not for long range use and not to shoot sub-MOA. Use a weapon you can shoot well, is concealable, affordable and won't cause you lost sleep when LE empounds it until your trials is over(if you are found innocent).
I carry a Kel-tec P3AT during summer months and a Kel-tec PF-9 the rest of the time. Never feel under gunned at all. Before the big gun craze, countries like Germany(.380) and Japan(.32) had no problem maintaining the peace with their side arms.
The need to carry a large gun seems to be proportional to the amount of excess testosoron one has. 
Big and fast bullets are not needed to kill, just look how many people are killed with knives.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21st, 2008 03:17 AM |
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Both older & younger b'rer have Ruger .380 LCP's.
Pretty decent performance with regular factory ammo....Amazing performace, when used with CorBon's PowerBall ammo.
And it's smaller and thinner than their wallets!
----Gnarly 
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28th, 2008 05:52 AM |
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Over the years, I have carried 380s, but people keep telling me the minimum pistol should be a 38 Spl.
If I was the physical size to carry a 1911 I would but I can only do that during the cold months with a bulky coat on. So otherwise I carry my small S&W wheel gun most of the time. The possibility of me using it versus the hours that I carry it tell me that I can handle a big recoil from a small pistol.
Plus I have come to realize that concealed carry pistol usage and range shooting are really two different critters. I can hit the target on my range all day long, but action shooting at 5, 10, 15 and 20 feet without true aiming is a whole different animal. The last class I went to, the instructor had a Magn-a-Ported snub nosed pistol, try holding that close to your body side ways and pulling the trigger.
I try to practice with my S&W for close quarters combat at least once a month if I am not using any other hand guns. Some times I practice with my Ultra Carry, sometimes I use a full sized heavy caliber pistol.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25th, 2008 11:09 AM |
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Thanks for all the input gents.
I ended up buying a Taurus 38spcl. in an Ultralight hammerless. If I had it to do over again, I think would get the same in a shrouded hammer model. But having said that, the trigger/firing pin release is pretty good on this model so it does shoot pretty fair. I also like the firing pin lock with the key for when I leave the gun buy it's lonesome.
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I have the S&W 637 in 38 Spl +P and carry Federal 38's, 125 gr HydraShok ammo. Only drawback on the 637 is the hammer. Should have gotten a hammerless. For the size, they are pretty accurate and recoil is not bad.
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DesertMarine,
The hammer is the reason, I bought the S&W 340PD, it is light and hammerless.
Jerry
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So true. Keep thinking of looking for a hammer without the spur. I don't believe S&W sells hammers anymore but there should be aftermarket hammers. I got a Mika pocket holster and it is made in such a way that the hammer is no problem. Very fast draw out of the holster but the butt of the pistol sits outside of trouser pocket. Be great in a jacket.
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I thought of bobbing the hammer which I can do myself. What I am not sure of is if the hammer will have enough weight to do it's job consistently. My 637 has the internal safety in which the hammer has been grooved already. After posting my last reply, I went to S&W and got their parts list and they do make hammers available. I think my best option is to find a replacement bobbed hammer. I'll start looking to see which is a like model with bobbed hammer. Or get another hammer and bob it and see what happens, but they cost $48 complete.
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Advantages of a bobbed hammer:
-Less chance of a snag on draw
-Faster lock time
-Lighter weight (trivial, but some folks are extreme --)
-Easy home smithing project
Disadvantages:
-Lower weight might require a stronger spring for reliable ignition
-Most times it eliminates thumb cocking as backup for ftf
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26th, 2008 04:42 PM |
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In my previous life I competed in PPC, at that time S&W revolvers were king. Lot of competitors would bob their hammers. Very few competitors would fire single action. Many claimed that double action was faster and more accurate. Sure there are arguements to both sides of the issue. I learned to shoot double action, like it.
Back to bobbeb hammers, I would not like to go to a heavier spring, it already takes a good size hammer to fire. I like light trigger pulls like in my Model 14. I'll get used to the 637 and probably talk to S&W and see if they have a bobbed hammer that will work.
Great discussion.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 29th, 2008 02:03 PM |
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sako06 wrote: ...I bought a Rossi Mod 88 2" SS 5 shot 38 special(discontinued)it's very accurate for a belly gun .
Hey, sako! I have a Rossi 88 too. It's a great little 5-shooter. I broke the original firing pin by dry-firing it just one time, but had a 'smith fit a S&W firing pin and haven't had a stitch of trouble with it since. That's been over 20 years and probably 3,000 rounds ago. That little belly gun is more accurate than some that I own in the 4-6 inch category, and it particularly likes 158 grain hard cast SWCs at about 850fps. I bobbed the hammer spur for CC purposes and it still fires every round every time.
These days, when I carry it, it's loaded with Guardian Gold HPs, but there's such a wide variety of ammo available for the .38 Special that it's worth investigating several to see which one a particular gun likes the best. Some of the newest stuff out there looks pretty interesting.
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I am looking to carry some Winchester Rangers next I buy ammo for my S&W 340PD, currently I am carrying Hrydra Shocks.
Jerry
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Revolver Ruger 2.5 inch SP-101, Semi-Auto Kahr P-9 or P-40
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O.K., I also have a Walther PPK/s, a Star PD, anda few others for concealed carry, but I like the S&W the most and it's light. But they only think I have to worry about out where I live is people from other places.
We are the People with God and Guns.
Happy Holidays,
Jerry
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