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November 8th, 2009 by Mas
Friday’s tragic atrocity at Fort Hood brings to mind many questions. A friend who’s an appellate attorney in New Mexico has commented privately that almost any public place in his state would have seen a different outcome, with the perpetrator shot down by a random armed citizen as soon as he shouted “Allah Akbar!” and raised his FN pistol. Dave Workman, my colleague at the Second Amendment Foundation, notes HERE that had the trained warriors present had weapons with which to fight back, the casualty toll would have been minimized. He compares it to the incident years ago in the Luby’s Cafeteria in nearby Killeen, where a mass murder of the people legally required to be unarmed led directly to Texas passing a shall-issue concealed carry law to arm the helpless. As Dave notes so well, there’s a lesson there.
Fred Zera sends along THIS LINK to remind us that the Fort Hood massacre is not the first time GI blood has been fatally shed stateside by a cowardly assassin acting in the name of radical Islamic beliefs. Major Hassan apparently showed his hostility and even his murderous inclination well in advance. Someone should have reported it, and someone it was reported to should have acted upon it. I don’t intend for this blog space to become a host for anti-religion sentiments of any kind, but the fact is, our nation is in global conflict with people who commit mass murder for the sake of their belief system, and it cannot be ignored in the interest of either religious freedom or political correctness.
I’m still wondering why, for all those hours, the authorities told us the killer was dead, and only later revealed that he was alive and on a ventilator? Was someone perhaps pumping the SOB with sodium pentathol “truth serum” to find out whether his actions constituted a conspiracy or not? If so, the ACLU will have a problem with it, but the pragmatists among us will not.
When someone asked a Fort Hood spokesman why there was no soldier with a gun among the crowd to stop the religious fanatic, the spokesman almost indignantly replied that they didn’t need to be armed, because at the base they were “at home.” Someone might have told him that so many of us “backwoods home” folks DO keep guns at home for protection, because self-protection is already there and “official protection” takes time to arrive. At Ft. Hood it took some three minutes. A long-declared jihad has made American soldiers stalking victims. They have a right to be able to protect themselves any time, anywhere, just like the unarmed citizens they serve to protect.
Finally, kudos to Sgt Mark Todd and the wounded Sgt. Kimberly Munley, who courageously “rode to the sound of the guns,” shot down the mass-murderer, and ended the carnage.
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This FBI has found that the Shooter, nidal malik hasan was e-mailing with a Muslim leader with al qaeda, he should be tried in a military tribunal, taken out placed against a wall, pig lard smeared across his forehead, and 72 American female soldiers, lined up with m-4's and shoot him dead!
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this pile of human debris with the commision of an officer in a time of war should be charged with treason !
and if found guilty ,shot or hanged per the UCMJ
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If the DOD and the Feds would allow Texas to prosecute the case, I can almost guarantee he would be found guilty and executed inside of two years.
From what I hear, the DOD is planning on prosecuting him. They haven't sentenced anyone to death since 1961. Don't hold your breath waiting for justice.
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This officer could have and should have resigned, even his own research should that this premise is true.
But don't expand this subject beyond what we know. There are some Muslims in th emilitary that good service people and are doing their job.
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miestro_jerry wrote: This officer could have and should have resigned, even his own research should that this premise is true.
But don't expand this subject beyond what we know. There are some Muslims in th emilitary that good service people and are doing their job.
Jerry
What more needs to be known?
Maybe who doesn't get the real bullet in the firing squad.
It was an tragic act of Islamic Terrorism and he and ALL his constituents get the dirt bath.
Don't call it anything but what it is. 
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I was reading where a lot (more than 5) of his co-workers (soldiers) complained about his anti-America views and his willingness to start arguments whenever anyone talked about the Muslim religion and how on more than one occasion he stated that the Muslim religion trumps the constitution, yet none of their superiors would do anything about the complaints for fear of being labeled not Politically Correct.
This was reported on the local newspaper The Arizona Morning Star.
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what never seems to be answered is why if he disliked america so much did he join the army and stay in it ? i have a very dim view of those who praise his actions ...they should join him in the pokey as a accomplice ,it was ,is and will always be a cowardly act,sadly it should of and perhaps could of been a preventable act ,apparently like so many other cowards he chose a place where most folks arent armed ( imagine that )and where apparently the sounds of shots fired wouldnt cause much concern ( except in the immediate area of course ) ,i also think that "if " the DOD prosecutes him that texas should also be able to prosecute him after the DOD's tribunal,like woodsman i consider it not only a act of treason but also a act against all of humanity and assuredly a act of premeditated and cold blooded murderous intent against citizens and where i come from no one seems to think much of putting a rabid dog down ....the guy's guilty as heck will he be a man and admit that at some trial ?
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The question now is an old one, how many of the people who were his commanders or supervisors are going to get passed over? How about sudden retirements? The immediate commander if he/she knew what was going on, that officer could get courts marshaled. As to the punishment for the major, the Army still hangs cowards and uses a firing squads for solders. You decide.
As to what this major is, can we call Tin McVey a Nazi Terrorist or a Klan Terrorist? There are many more arguements about the actions of one person being connected to anti American groups, that we don't seem to use similar definitions concerning them.
In the American military there is one true fact, $hit rolls down hill. I hope all our members in Texas have their hip waiters onhand.
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After reading some more information on this Major, he could be a :
1) A Home Grown Terrorist
2) An Islamic Terrorist
3) A Nut Job
4) A Want To Be Terrorist
So should he go to GITMO or to the hang man?
What is the D.C. Sniper who was executed this evening? He created terror and was a muslim.
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crazy2medic wrote: This FBI has found that the Shooter, nidal malik hasan was e-mailing with a Muslim leader with al qaeda, he should be tried in a military tribunal, taken out placed against a wall, pig lard smeared across his forehead, and 72 American female soldiers, lined up with m-4's and shoot him dead!
my 2cents!
And that communication, was very nearly a year ago, and asked dear Imam Hasan "What can I do to move the jihad foreward?".
Looks pretty clear to me he tried "assisting" @ Ft Hood.
I'd bet the rest of my pension that he never sees a Firing Squad (I like the 72 female soldiers, justice SHOULD be "poetic" if possible). He'll live in Ks the rest of his like, on our $$ if.when convicted.  Ft Leavanworth D.B.
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miestro_jerry wrote: After reading some more information on this Major, he could be a :
1) A Home Grown Terrorist
2) An Islamic Terrorist
3) A Nut Job
4) A Want To Be Terrorist
So should he go to GITMO or to the hang man?
What is the D.C. Sniper who was executed this evening? He created terror and was a muslim.
Jerry
At this stage, it doesn't make a particle bit of difference which of the four, or all of them. Net of it is, he's a murderer, a capital criminal, and no evidence of mitigating circumstances that would take death off the table as punishment.
There is a case to be made, however frivolously, to put his head on a pike in front of amadouchbag's residence in Tehran.
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I don't like the head on a pike things, it draws too many bugs.
If you put this person in the gen pop of the disciplinary barracks, he won't live long.
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Hm. Let's see. There are 206 bones (normally) in the human body. I wonder how many can be broken, one at a time, before a confession. OK, that works for me, never mind the pike even in front of amadouchbag's residence.
Back on topic. I've not seen anything yet about what he is saying now that he's off the respirator. Anybody picked up on anything yet?
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He is still the same wild and crazy guy since they pulled the tube.
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umm they pulled the wrong plug IMO ....
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My Basis in this matter is that the Major, if he was a true Islamic Terrorist, he would of had some kind of suicide vest on, more kills and he would have good to heaven with all of the virgins.
I think was a combination of mentally ill person and "want a be".
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bet he doesnt want to face the music in this matter <_<, i'm tore up in this matter ..part of me wishes he was d.o.a. the logical part of me wants to see him held accountable for his actions and the consequences thereof sadly the sensible part of me tells me they are gonna try to pull a rabbit out of the hat and never hold him fully accountable ,considering the crime etc and the fact that no matter how how they plead him we cant deny his guilt nor can the brave woman who stopped "his jihad".....
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In the military you can be found guilty with mental defect, so he would go to prison for life, most likely, if he us cured, then he either raims in prison or gets a date with the hangman.
In this case, the military should prosecute him for the 12 murders of military personnel. then turn him over to Texas for the one civilian death.
But the major is also guilty of treason and sedition.
So he should be put down for any and all of the above.
Jerry
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