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Timberghozt
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| Joined: | 11 February 2005 |
| Location: | Plaza De Los Armas, Mexico |
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Posted: 5 December 2007 06:47 PM |
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Folks,I often thought that at the age most of us are that we never had to worry about being taken by a con or could spot when a liar was feeding us a big blast of garbage that they made up..
Well as of recently it appears I was wrong.So I need to post a few things for everyone to read.
If you come to the HB and post about yourself,just tell the truth in whatever you care to share with us.Nobody will care if you are poor as a church mouse,own a cheap rifle and haven`t hunted once in your life.These folks here are good men and will treat everyone with respect no matter what their status in life is.There is absolutely no reason to lie about it.
On to credentials,If you come here and post that you are a Navy SEAL, Ranger,Green Beret,Scout Sniper,whatever be prepared to abck up those claims.And the same goes if you come here and tell me you have hunted in Africa countless times with one of the fifty custom dangerous game rifles you had built for each trip,be prepared to back it up.
If you come to me and tell me you are a rocket scientist at NASA or a school teacher in Tupelo Mississippi,be prepared to back it up.If thats what you do,you have no reason to care.
The problem lies in wherein a member comes on board and gains trust by living a huge lie online.Claiming to be someone they are not.Then they use that trust to take advantage of good folks who are sincere and caring by trying to help them.Now we have a problem.
Basically what I am saying is if you come here and care to tell us what you do for a living,where you hunt,what you hunt,what you shoot..tell the truth.Thats all we ask,simply tell the truth.
If you want to be a part of staff here,from now on I must ask for proof if you tell me you are a cop,a firefighter,a judge,whatever it may be that you disclose.The board has grown large enough that the credibility of its staff has to be impeccable.
Now regarding ethics and money.If you are in a hard spot and you need money and have friends here.Guys,I won`t allow anyone else asking for money on the board openly.If your rent is due and you got fired please don`t ask on the open board.Take it private to your friends if thats what you feel you need to do.
From now on,if I see anyone else asking for money for whatever excuse it may be,the post will be deleted and at best you will be warned about soliciting members for money.I am extremely serious about this as I am one of e few folks that has given money to individuals on several occasions to help them out with this and that.
There are many organizations out there that are great charities and I can plug a few of em and I do on occasion.Otherwise,if someone is here asking you to give them money,let me know and I`ll see about it or one of the other staff will do the same if you are friends with any of the guys on staff here.
Lastly,we are all adults here.Use your common sense and best judgement in dealing with other members if you are or were approached by a member here asking for money.Would you give your hard earned cash to some guy who just walked up to you on the street and said,I need money?No you wouldn`t,use your common sense.If you don`t know a person don`t fall for a scam guys..
With all this said If you see something here you don`t think is right,please notify me or another board founder or admin.I assure you we will get to the bottom of it and will do what is right involving con men,scammers,liars, and posers.
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TasunkaWitko
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| Joined: | 4 February 2005 |
| Location: | Chinook, Montana USA |
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Posted: 5 December 2007 06:51 PM |
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everything gene said, +1.
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Force_Recon_Marine
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| Joined: | 7 November 2006 |
| Location: | Alabama USA |
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Posted: 6 December 2007 03:43 PM |
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Rapier
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| Joined: | 29 October 2007 |
| Location: | Destin, Florida USA |
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Posted: 2 January 2008 07:03 PM |
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Interesting this comes up. Just got a blurb from my 101st buddy in CA. He is the former state head of vetrans affairs. They just picked up the president of a big community water association for fraud under the new stolen valor statutes in CA. The clown claimed to be a WWII, Korea and Vietnam vet with a MOH. Never was in the military.
Ed
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DirtyDingus
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| Joined: | 21 February 2007 |
| Location: | South Of Little Rock, Arkansas USA |
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Posted: 5 January 2008 10:44 PM |
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I guess I'm naive, since I tend to believe most until something happens to change that.
I can't abide a liar, especially one that lies to make himself look "better" in the eyes of others.
I think I know about the incident that prompted timber's post. I had already written this particular guy off due to his failure to do what he said he'd do.
I agree totally with timber's post. For example, when I joined the VFW, the lady asked if I'd been in Viet-Nam. Told her that I hadn't, that I was a VN ERA vet, was overseas in Turkey, but never in a war zone (lol, although the Turks did on several occasions approach our compound and throw rocks at us). The AP's were the ones that received the brunt of the rocks. She actually tried to get me to say that I was a VN vet, or otherwise, I'd have no voting privileges. Told her again that I was VN ERA vet....so I got an Associate Membership (or whatever they called it). It just ain't worth it to lie, gives you too much to remember and keep straight...hehehe.
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saddlesore
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| Joined: | 6 February 2005 |
| Location: | Colorado Springs, Colorado USA |
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Posted: 23 February 2008 08:09 PM |
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I am no vet of anything. I volunteered fro Vietnam, but they would not take be due to a medical.
From 1968 to 1992, I spent 3 months of about every year in the Nevada desert doing underground nuclear test. I helped develope about every major weapon system used in Viernam and later dates. Most test were a mile undergound. In the winter, I went under when it was dark and came out after dark. I recieved more radiation than any soldier, breathed more lead, asbestos, silca , diesel fumes than 95% of the poulation and was away from my family for more than 13 years total.
After the tast we would have to go back into the tunnel that was caving in and very radioactive to retrieve tested items.
Today past nuclear workers are dying at an alarming rate from radiation induced cancer and other maladies.
I have been shot at a few times and would certainly take that vs waiting for some form of cancer to take me.
I am sincerely apprecaitive of every man or woman that goes into a war zone, but I bet they would not do what I did . Just wanted to comment that there are a lot of folks in this country who have served it differntly
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moonhawksowl
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| Joined: | 7 March 2006 |
| Location: | Neosho, Wisconsin USA |
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Posted: 16 June 2008 06:04 PM |
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Saddlesore Your cool, and the rest of you guys!!!!
I like truth, just be yourself, And get a reality check on life, we here don't need to create or lie we are who we are, and that makes being here so good
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Cohiba
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Posted: 3 October 2008 12:42 PM |
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I dont discuss credentials in online forums.
The problem is that
#1 any basement dwelling 40 year old computer nerd can say he is what he isnt.
#2 Any hard living Marine S/S will be percieved as a liar if he tells what he did/ does.
I have learned , after being kicked off dozens of forums, that its just not worth going there. Theres always some punk troll who tries pushing peoples personal buttons when mommy spends his Depakote money on Newports and lotto tickets.
My firm rule is stick to the post and only state as fact what you know to be fact.
ie I know a 405 grain cast lead slug from a 45-70 will kill a Brown bear. I dont need to kill one personally to attest to that BUT why put it in a post? When someone asks "how many brownies have you killed" and you answere zero you lose credibility.
One positive thing is that theres no percievable crater here that the trolls hang around in kicking up dirt.
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| Joined: | 30 July 2007 |
| Location: | Denver Area, Colorado USA |
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Posted: 3 October 2008 02:43 PM |
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I have to reply to this string with a little humor.. Hope nobody minds...
Like the Jewish gangster in one of the Godfather movies: " I'm a retired investor, living on a fixed income". Except, unlike that gangster, I have no investments, but I do live on a very fixed income. I'd like to live long enough to get back what I paid in to SS, but I realize that's impossible. An annuity from the company I worked for helps keep the wolf from the door.
Regarding the VFW... My late neighbor, who was a decorated WWll vet, tried to sponsor me for membership several years ago. Since I went into the USN in 1956, and was discharged in 1961, I was informed that I was ineligible for Korea (too late) and too early for Viet Nam.
About the only organizations that I belong to are: NRA (endowment), and the Rocky Mountain Cartridge Collector's Assn.
I do enjoy my membership on this forum... A very broad spectrum of contributors, from whom I'm always learning something.
Good shooting, folks .
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