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Posted: 1 August 2008 03:39 AM |
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Anybody want to bet about how long before Canada follows the UK's lead in knife control?
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Posted: 7 August 2008 11:35 AM |
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Posted: 7 August 2008 09:38 PM |
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They need to ban public transportation. Could it have been the easy availability of a bus ride (with no background check required) that was REALLY responsible for bringing killer and victim together?
With all due respect to the victim's family (and none to the killer, for he deserves none), if she (or some other rider of that bus) had been carrying a gun (or other effective means of self-defense), the outcome could have been different. Perhaps the monster that killed her would not have been so enboldened or successful.
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Carlo1776
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Posted: 11 August 2008 04:29 AM |
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Charlie
I'll take that Bull Shit bet. Unfortunately there was no one on that bus to back up or defend Mr. McLean from a random psycho. They all ran like school girls to be the first to post on "you tube". I expect better from this forum.
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Posted: 11 August 2008 04:08 PM |
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Carlo, I can't speak for Charley, but I believe he meant no slur on Canada or Canadians.
You do have to admit, though, that Canada has many more retstrictive gun laws than we in the US do.
We here read about the latest restrictions on your rights and shake our heads over them, and just like the latest anti gun legislations here, we can only shake our heads and piss & moan...
Or---just ignore most of them!!!
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Carlo1776
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Posted: 11 August 2008 08:13 PM |
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3006 user wrote: Carlo, I can't speak for Charley, but I believe he meant no slur on Canada or Canadians.
You do have to admit, though, that Canada has many more retstrictive gun laws than we in the US do.
We here read about the latest restrictions on your rights and shake our heads over them, and just like the latest anti gun legislations here, we can only shake our heads and piss & moan...
Or---just ignore most of them!!!
Yea I know Charlie didn't mean anything by it. More frustration on my part. I live in Toronto where the Mayor (David Miller) is on a one man handgun ban crusade. He makes Nancy Pelosi look like a right wing genius (they do look alike though). As well, that whole weird bus thing pissed off people coast to coast (perp just off the boat 2 years ago). We do have a conservative federal government that doesn't seem to have any problem telling Miller and his provincial gov counterpart to go piss up a rope. For now. Keep your NRA membership paid up, I just got my renewal bill in the mail today.
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Charley
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Posted: 11 August 2008 08:27 PM |
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Carlo1776
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Posted: 11 August 2008 08:37 PM |
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Charley wrote: I mean no disrespect to Canadian citizens, only to their government.
Thanks Charlie. We have more than our fair share of liberal politicians, but there seems to be a lot more of that getting around these days
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Posted: 11 August 2008 11:05 PM |
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Gee when Canada had voluntary gun registration, by phone no less, it failed badly.
I spent a few afternoon in classes to get my acquisition card, now I don't have any problems. The local police for where my second home is in Canada, said if I could get them across the border they would have no problems with my guns. Plus many friends in Canada have given me some really nice rifles from when the Empire ruled the world.
The only thing I was told that I could not have were the cheap assault rifles like the AKs and SKS. Instead I have a AR 15 and a M1A, along with a Hi Power, a Walther PPK/s and a few others.
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Posted: 12 August 2008 03:14 AM |
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It's got a lot more complicated on both sides of the border. We have this http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca/factsheets/r&p_e.asp and you have Homeland security. Used to be able to buy bullets, powder and ammo cross border in 5000 round lots. Import of gun parts like slide springs screws etc. from Brownells used to be routine. Hope things get better.
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Posted: 12 August 2008 06:14 AM |
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Carlo,
I have been purchasing or transporting with me the things I need for the last 6 years without problems. My second home is in Valleyfield Qu. which is way out in no where and I am not a Francophone, so they leave me alone.
What are you going to do with 5,000 bullets in such a peaceful quiet country? I have many battle paks worth of ammo and the stuff to make up what I need for hunting, maybe in the hundreds.
I know there are many foolish laws, but no one has ever bothered me, so I don't bother them.
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Posted: 13 August 2008 01:19 AM |
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Jerry, not to be too much of a downer, but in reply to your last post, last sentence./...."YET"!!!!
http://www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca contains the word "register" several times. This applies when you bring a firearm into Canada (for a fee). Canada also supplies this info to US law enforcement agencies..
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Posted: 13 August 2008 04:19 AM |
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The last time I paid the fee it was $50 for a weapon going into Canada. I have no criminal record in the states, in Canada or any other country.
I have brought many weapons into the states with no paper work, it is or was legal for an individual to do that.
Ohio is one of the strictest states on getting a CCW, I have mine. I am cleared to buy firearms in Canada.
As that I do not live in any big city, any where. I don't have to worry about idiots in charge trying to take my guns away because of urban blight and moral decay.
Who knows, the U.S. could become a leader in Gun Control depending on the flip of a lever or a push of a button on election day. Yes I know, bite my tongue. Vote for Paris, at least she looks good in a bathing suit, compared to the other two.
But Canada is a very nice to visit and stay for a while. Hunting is really great and the beer is pretty good.
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Posted: 13 August 2008 04:33 AM |
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I shoot a lot of ammo at the range so it used to be nice to be able to pick up good deals accross the border on factory loads and components. I'd be leary about bringing ammo cross border, now better to buy it here for hunting season
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Carlo,
I have been purchasing or transporting with me the things I need for the last 6 years without problems. My second home is in Valleyfield Qu. which is way out in no where and I am not a Francophone, so they leave me alone.
What are you going to do with 5,000 bullets in such a peaceful quiet country? I have many battle paks worth of ammo and the stuff to make up what I need for hunting, maybe in the hundreds.
I know there are many foolish laws, but no one has ever bothered me, so I don't bother them.
Jerry
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Posted: 13 August 2008 04:45 AM |
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Carlo,
I find a lot of reloading supplies at estate sales and now and then yard sales in Canada. I got a Lyman Sizer and some dies for $25 and a Lincoln Buzz Box for $50.
In my home in Que, I have the stuff to cast my own bullets, most are duplicates of dies that I also have in the states. I can buy supplies from a candle making shop to make my own lubes. Beeswax is really easy to find.
There are many places to cross the border outside of the major cities that have no one there to greet you.
Jerry
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Posted: 13 August 2008 04:57 AM |
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miestro_jerry wrote: Carlo,
I find a lot of reloading supplies at estate sales and now and then yard sales in Canada. I got a Lyman Sizer and some dies for $25 and a Lincoln Buzz Box for $50.
In my home in Que, I have the stuff to cast my own bullets, most are duplicates of dies that I also have in the states. I can buy supplies from a candle making shop to make my own lubes. Beeswax is really easy to find.
There are many places to cross the border outside of the major cities that have no one there to greet you.
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Jerry I'll have to pay closer attention at yard sales but laws have started to get a little stupid. I'd like to pick up side plate screws for an S&W K frame or a spare barrel for my SIG, choke tubes for my Benelli 20 ga. I have lots of friends on south shore Montreal. Are you hunting up here as well? Just found out tonite that we drew an adult Bull moose tag from the Ministry. Changes the whole hunt now.
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Posted: 13 August 2008 03:57 PM |
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Carlo,
Good going on the Bull Moose. I hunt from Alberta up to Hudson Bay, just about everything you can hunt, I have gone after them in Canada. Last year and this year I have been concentrating on my farm here in the states, as well as developing a new business in the rural part of eastern Ohio. Maybe this coming winter, I will go deer hunting in Que.
Take care,
Jerry
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