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Posted: 2 December 2008 05:22 AM |
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Tuned in O'Reilly tonight and heard something that our upcoming "president" might have said...
Only this is supposed to come from Bush: he wants to use the Army internally in our country to help the Dept. of Homeland Security with possible terrorism within our borders..
I thought that using the regular Army inside our country was prohibited.... The Guard has been used, I know.
I don't know about you, boys and girls, but I can see the chances of abuse!!!!
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Posted: 2 December 2008 07:45 AM |
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Looks like they are going to do a trial...same thing as just going ahead and doing it only a little at a time so they can get us used to it...they just wont stop chipping away at our freedoms will they.Gonna find away to take care of us all.....Robin..
http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2008/12/pentagon_to_deploy_20000_troop.php
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Posted: 3 December 2008 02:37 AM |
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Posse Comitatus - The U.S. Military can not be used in the role of civilian police.
This idiot coming into power wants to have a internal army that would be a national police force of sorts.
Can you say POLICE STATE!
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Posted: 3 December 2008 03:44 AM |
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Posted: 3 December 2008 04:26 AM |
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miestro_jerry wrote: Posse Comitatus - The U.S. Military can not be used in the role of civilian police.
This idiot coming into power wants to have a internal army that would be a national police force of sorts.
Can you say POLICE STATE!
Jerry
Jerry, I'll give you three guesses, and the first two don't count about who is going to be in that internal army!!!
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| Obama is bad news any way you look at him. I used to watch the news regular, but every time they bring him on or show him for any reason i change the channel. I just can't stand to look at this SOB . I support my country 100% but i will never support this man as President. In my Opinion we have a country without a leader for the next four years. Hope the US can survive this idiot and his so called change to communism and socialism.
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Posted: 3 December 2008 04:20 PM |
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The difference between a Socialist and a Communist, is the Communist has all of your guns.
With this possible formation of a military styled national police, I start to question if Mr. Obama has ever read American History or studied American constitutional law.
I was born in Germany, live outside the U.S. until I was 14, then went into Army after I graduated from High School. Spent 3 1/3 years overseas during my 8 year career in the military, two tours in Vietnam, then Europe and South America, since that time I lived in Canada for 6 years. With some travel to Europe over the years
Over the years I have seen what a internal security force looks like in other countries, I saw what the Soviet bloc countries had for internal security. I did get asked for my papers when I was crossing borders. I know things are now different in Eastern Europe.
The way that I see that we are headed with this president elect, is to be a gun free like England and Australia, have a national I.D. card and probably have a "jack booted" internal security force in this country.
I also think that we will see a president who has to solve the global economic crisis, as well as resolve two wars. So maybe over the course of the next 4 years he may be tied up with those problems and put his grand plan on hold while he is taxing and spending our money.
As far as the automobile industry, why is the gov thinking of bailing out the Big 3, there are other car manufactures that exist in this county, have the Big 3 merge with other more stable manufactures, just like the did the "banks".
If he truly wants to share the wealth, out of that $7 Trillion plan, if he gave each and every one of use $60,000, that would solve all of the problems from the grass roots levels up. You get the money and buy a new car or a house or whatever. That would create jobs and stimulate the economy.
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Posted: 3 December 2008 07:27 PM |
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I not only voted for him but I worked on his local campaign. I had your same sentiments against McCain and Palin and 4 more years of GW policies.
Things are so bad here in Detroit, I was willing to take a chance with my gun rights; we had to have change.
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Posted: 3 December 2008 08:01 PM |
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Posted: 3 December 2008 08:38 PM |
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So far, it looks like nothing will really change on the economy front, the will be raging on, the war of drugs will still be in a losing situation, and bad judgement will be getting rewarded under these bail outs.
So the government will be taking our guns and our money.
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Posted: 3 December 2008 08:59 PM |
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And our kids will have to pay the bill.
I paid off my mortgage 15 years ago. Now I'm paying off somebody else's house bill.
Maddening.
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Posted: 3 December 2008 10:39 PM |
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Have we paid off Vietnam or Korea yet? I know we paid off WW II a little while back.
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Posted: 14 December 2008 08:15 PM |
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i'm always wondering what would be the reason to have a POLICE STATE........ are these people so fu(ked in the head they acctually want some kind of total power over the citizens of the UNITED STATES?? just don't get it.............
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Posted: 14 December 2008 10:38 PM |
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jjb2,
It is a matter of power and seeking more power. Then problem that I see is that there are too many veterans and non Obama people who are smart with some specialty training, that will defend America.
Klinton came to power and within a few days he changed his tune, he said he didn't know how bad things were. Obama promised a lot and now is back tracking. The economy is going to get worse is what he said, Big Industry is going to tank in some fashion or another unless the government bails them out.
I want to know where my middle class and pension tax breaks are?
A promise is a contract.
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Posted: 14 December 2008 11:19 PM |
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miestro_jerry wrote: jjb2,
A promise is a contract.
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Unless it's from a politician.. How can you tell when a politician is lying??? His mouth moves!! Might sound like I'm disgruntled.. Hell, I've never been gruntled when it comes to politics.. ( Is gruntled even a word?) (I checked-- it is a word.. means happy or pleased)...
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Posted: 15 December 2008 01:32 AM |
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| I have a feeling obamma is going to give us just what he said...Change...no matter what he promised to anybody now its all going to change....including the tax breaks...Robin
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Posted: 15 December 2008 02:22 AM |
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IRISH TRIAD OR 3 PART TRADITIONAL SAYING:
Three things never to trust: The life of an aged person, a fair day in winter or the promise of a rich man, unless it's in writing.
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2571 wrote: IRISH TRIAD OR 3 PART TRADITIONAL SAYING:
Three things never to trust: The life of an aged person, a fair day in winter or the promise of a rich man, unless it's in writing.
The only two things in life I will ever trust.
God and a Colt in my hand
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Posted: 15 December 2008 03:17 AM |
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As I have stated in another thread, I believe in God and Guns, Colt, SIG, Browning, Kimber, etc, etc. A Browing 1919 would be really handy these days.
The last time I heard we were promised change, things got worse.
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