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 Posted: Wed Sep 2nd, 2009 05:27 PM
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Folks,

Look up SB-2099

You may have to register your guns with the IRS, pay a $50 tax on each gun and go thru finger printing.

Then HR45, the Blair Holt Firearm Licensing & Record of Sales Act of 2009

I am starting to think about succession or that CW2 maybe at hand.

Jerry



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This is old and dead!   It's not true...dig a bit deaper

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This is still floating around on the net.

Jerry



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Lots of falsehoods floating around on the net. TSRA had a great explanation of the so called "Ammunition Accountability Act" back in the Jan/Feb issue of theri magazine. Stil getting emails about microstamping, too

Be vigilant, but don't be taken in by ignorants telling the same old stories over and over.



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Right now, I am keeping an eye for a grey fox while trying to our harvest finished and what foods we need preserved.

I don't employ illegal aliens, ALF included, I use high school kids for the hand picking after school, Min Wage plus $2 is common pay for them, but they know what my schedule is. My corn is harvested by a company that we split the money.

There is a rumor going around that Grey Foxes are immue to lead poisoning, via lead pills.

Sometimes I react to what I get in my email, sorry if it is out of date, but my produce is fresh and we use no chemicals.

In a bit, we will be canning tomatoes for salsa and pizza sauce, plus making apple sauce.

No matter what happens, we will being eating this winter and thru next summer.

Jerry



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2099 has been dead for years - not a problem.  HR45 is still twitching, but no politician will touch  it - it's poison.  The idiot who crafted it is pretty much alone in his own mind.  His own party will not support him - and he is a convicted felon with a record of gun-crime - go figure........  :confused:



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I stopped trying to figure out the current admin, don't wish to end up fleeing to the country for the Bahamas or Canada yet. I need to get a few things done while I am in states before doing a Bug Out.

But compare what is being shown on the History Channel about the 1930s in Germany and what is going on today. No we aren't directly attacking a country for practice for a war, but maybe. List to the people chanting for Mr. Obama and substitute the words Sieg Heil, which means Hail Victory.

The Pledge to Obama for school kids, it was removed from the US Dept of Ed's website, but it never should have been put up in the first place. That really sounded like the pledge that the Hitler Youth gave to Hitler.

I am an American, there are many like me, but I and they stand for freedom and democracy.

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don't wish to end up fleeing to the country for the Bahamas or Canada yet.

 

No place left to go, we'll end up fighting it out here, hopefully with the ballot box.



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I want to be able to fire into the states without the Obama civil army being able to shoot back, I hope.

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This showed up in my email today

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miestro_jerry wrote: The Pledge to Obama for school kids, it was removed from the US Dept of Ed's website, but it never should have been put up in the first place. That really sounded like the pledge that the Hitler Youth gave to Hitler.


Anybody have a copy of the wording to this "pledge?"



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HR45 is also dead right now...it has no co-sponsors and is not going anywhere....however it is being monitored :thumbs:



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The whole government needs to be monitored, one of these Czars wants to end hunting. In my household that will be costly as that is the protein we eat 6 months out of the year.

I want to know who authorized the power these cvars have, I can find the authoirity to create these positions in federal code.

Plus if we get Obama care, what ever it may look like, the IRS will be the record keeper and enforcer, so that ever one has medical insurance.

Why does this look like many governments that ended up with a dictorial government?

Jerry



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Yep , you are exactly right.... these "czars" have been appointed ans as far as I'm concerned they are illegal.....right with you there :thumbs:



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The term "czar" is silly - created to instill fear and distrust.  Granted, the 'bama misadministration SHOULD be mistrusted!  But most of these appointees are simply advisors with little real power.  Several don't even answer to the kenyan, but to whoever truly heads the particular department.

Folks are making this into something far more than it really is.  :shameon:

Now having the bloody IRS heading up or in any way being involved in the obamacare fiasco - very bad news!  Seems the kenyan is trying to get all departments firmly under his iron fist.

Now we know how the German citizens felt in 1933.........  :rolleyes: 

 



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Try to read the Obama Mishealth bill, it is long, boring and very nebulous. The situation is not so much to have this "public option" it is to that every citizen is required to have health care. The means of achieving this and verifying this via the IRS.

THe Obama civil army is actually starting to be formed, just check in with all of the documents filed. It is boring, but I use Glenn Beck, Bill O'Rielly for the starting point to find stuff. But it is always just little bits and pieces, here and there.

The method that is being used to protect government actions and plans is called the NASA Effect. NASA really doesn't have the ability or regulation to use military classification of documents, so if you request via the Freedom of Information Act a certain document, that document is first santized because of the Privacy Act, then it put in with thousands of other documents. So a one page request could yield a 100 boxes of papers. So currently many things are being buried in other documents.

Not sure how many of you were aware of the 60s and 70s, but STyeppenwolf have a song called Monster/Suicide/America. Here are the lyrics.

http://www.lyrics007.com/Steppenwolf%20Lyrics/Monster%20Lyrics.html

Jerry

 

 



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