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Has anybody ever tried to reload something like steel BB's with #2 Hevishot?
I do not want to but the question came up on another forum and nobody is real sure if it will work or even be safe??
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23rd, 2006 04:25 PM |
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Could possibly be done, but I'd want an Oehler 43 or 84 measuring pressures real careful. I'm guessing that any load with safe pressure would be so low a velocity as to make it useless. That's mixing HeviShot and Steel. Blown patterns would result for sure. No reason to try anything like that, unless somebody wants to see first-hand what the result would be, and that result just might be a major rearrangement of body parts. Even mixing shot sizes (duplexing or triplexing) using lead shot, while perfectly safe, usually will give patterns that are on the bad side of terrible. The major ammunition manufacturers tried that and gave it up as a bad idea.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24th, 2006 12:23 AM |
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Stick with only one material for shotshells.You can mix sizes with lead
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| Posted: Tue Oct 24th, 2006 01:24 AM |
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Goosehunter, Shotgun reloading is much more exacting than rifle reloading. There is even less margin for error. Always follow reloading recipes exactly, right down to primer choices, or you may pay the consequences. I've been a shotshell reloader and trap shooter for many years and have seen more than one gun done in by careless reloading. Thankfully none of mine. If you are interested in reloading steel or hevi shot you might want to check out a company called Ballistic Products. Steel and hevi shot are very hard and do not flow through chokes easily with out the proper wads and buffers. Ballistic Products has the expertise and components to make this a simple process. Under no circumstances would I ever mix the two. RD
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Rockydog wrote: Goosehunter, Shotgun reloading is much more exacting than rifle reloading. There is even less margin for error. Always follow reloading recipes exactly, right down to primer choices, or you may pay the consequences. I've been a shotshell reloader and trap shooter for many years and have seen more than one gun done in by careless reloading. Thankfully none of mine. If you are interested in reloading steel or hevi shot you might want to check out a company called Ballistic Products. Steel and hevi shot are very hard and do not flow through chokes easily with out the proper wads and buffers. Ballistic Products has the expertise and components to make this a simple process. Under no circumstances would I ever mix the two. RD
Tell that to a Bench Rest or a High Power Comp shooter. They weigh each individual bullet to ensure uniformaity and deal with single grains of powder. I am not saying it is more precise than shot shell reloading, because I don't do it, but I have helped friends many times. Trust me, you would never catch one of them useing a multipule stage press (or me) and anytime you use a drop mesure without weighing every single charge on a scale to ensure uniformaity....well you get the point.
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Black 6, Perhaps I worded that incorrectly. I, too, am a rifle reloading nut and have weighed cases, bullets, and powders. Trimmed cases, seated deeper, seated shallower, etc, etc. Yes, rifle reloading as an art is more exacting than using a rotary MEC loader to assemble a 1200fps 1 1/8 oz. trap load. What I meant was from a safety standpoint you can carefully work up a rifle load a bit at a time until you get heavy bolt lift, expanded cases, or blown primers and, most likely, won't blow up guns or lose body parts. Shotgun loads on the other hand are nothing to mess with. Heavy loads of fast burning powders pushing unknown weights of projectile through chokes of varying restriction are recipes for disaster. Open a freebie powder applications book from your local gun dealer and look at the varying pressure figures for the exact same loads that differ only by primer or brand of wad. Then look at the same loads in varying brands of cases. Little changes do strange things. Shotguns usually don't show signs of excess pressures like rifles do. I've been shooting for over 40 years and have never seen a blown rifle from reloading but I've seen a blown 870 Express, a Browning Citori, a Browning A5, a .410 single barrel and others. All on the trap range and all with careless reloading. Fortunately no one was hurt. RD
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If I came off hot headed, sorry. I have been reloading for several years now and still feel like I don't know crap. We can both agree that they are different, and both are exacting in their own way (the way all things that go boom are exacting)
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Black 6, No apologies needed. I'm the one who wasn't exactly clear. I don't want to come off like a know it all either. I just hate to see some one destroy a gun or worse, get hurt. RD
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GooseHunter Jr wrote: Has anybody ever tried to reload something like steel BB's with #2 Hevishot?
I do not want to but the question came up on another forum and nobody is real sure if it will work or even be safe??
I think the biggest problem would be an unusually long shot string resulting from the Hevi Shot being far more dense than the steel shot, thereby holding it's velocity better than the steel shot would causing the steel to bleed off velocity much more quickly. Remington tried marketing 2 shot sizes in one load about 10 years ago, and I believe it was discontinued because of the shot string issue I just mentioned. Hevi Shot is manufactured from Tungsten which is much more dense than steel, hence more effective. Bill T.
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This may be a little off topic, but I have a question. I have a friend that is a good bit older than me who used to reload shotshells for shooting clays mostly. He would load them with spent pistol and rifle primers. Has anyone else done that or heard of that? I guess if you reloaded a lot of pistol and rifle ammo that would work. I just wonder how effective it would be.
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Thats the first I've ever heard of anything like that! I would not do so because the plastic wad shot cup is designed to protect the bore from soft, round lead shot, not hard sharp projectiles like old, used primers and anvils. It could very easily damage the bore. Plus, the odd shape of them means they couldn't possibly fly true resulting in poor patterns. Bill T.
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