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I am going to reload 1 oz. 12 gauge slugs. I don't have a roll top tool. I seen one in the Lyman book but they don't sell it anymore. I have been told to just crimp them like shot, only it is pushed down farther. Has anyone done this?
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Asgard, I've done it with 16 gauge shot loads and cards and also made up a couple of dummy slugs. This works really slick with very little hassle. The biggest problem I had was trying to do a batch of cases too quickly. The roll crimp tool heats up and starts to melt plastic cases rather than roll them. I use a drill press. According to the manual you need a vice to hold them and prevent turning while crimping. I held mine with my fingers with no problem. I started to do this for my 16 ga. Model 12 Win. Pump. It was made in 1917 and was still chambered in 2 5/8. The 'window" in the action sometimes catches 2 3/4 as you eject them. Not wanting to hog it out I went to loading 2 1/2" shells. I just cut the original crimp off with a razor knife and roll crimp. New crimping tools are available at Precisionreloading.com. They come in steel 10,12,16,20,28, and 410 for $25.99 ea. or in a 12 ga. nylon model for $11.99. Vices are available too.
Folded loads will work too. What ever you do follow the data exactly and you'll have no problems. RD
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Asgard wrote: I am going to reload 1 oz. 12 gauge slugs. I don't have a roll top tool. I seen one in the Lyman book but they don't sell it anymore. I have been told to just crimp them like shot, only it is pushed down farther. Has anyone done this?
First off, get the Lyman Shotshell Reloading Manual. It has loads for slugs, and follow the recipes to the letter. The only variance that I do, is the primers. I tend to interchange CCI and Winchester, but DO NOT substitute Fereal primers for any - they are hotter.
I use the Lyman Sabot Slug and use a fold crimp. I load using a Mec700 Versamec.
Forgot to add that a roll crimper is available from Ballistic Products.
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here is where I got mine. And I suggest getting a scale with it if you don't have one already. Oh man my life just got so much easier. I load a lot of steel and slugs, The scale allows you to weigh the powders you cant through a bushing. It is more accurate too.
roll crimper
https://www.ballisticproducts.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ROLL12
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I have two roll crimp dies and have yet to use them. I put a wad made from artist matte/mounting board over the slug and star crimp mine.
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Some testing by Hodgdon back in the mid '70s show that with two identical loads, with one roll-crimped and the other star-crimped, the roll-crimped shell will have a slightly lower muzzle velocity. In the data I've seen, the difference isn't enough to make a large difference in the performance. I roll crimp some birdshot loads just because I like the looks of them. 
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