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Winchester primer Pin Hole failures?
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 Posted: Tue Oct 11th, 2011 10:44 PM
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Seem like there is always a smear campaign going on slamming some reloading product or another. Winchester Primer are getting some bad feed back. The photos for this problem might really be reason for concern. If you got some you might want to take a look at these post.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=619406

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463882



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 Posted: Wed Oct 12th, 2011 06:08 PM
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I use Win LP primers in my 45ACP with no problems.  Primers at least 10 yrs old.  Rifles I have never had problems with them.  But I prefer CCI LR or SR BR primers.



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 Posted: Thu Oct 13th, 2011 12:44 AM
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Some other thread had a mention about component/ ammo recalls.  I went looking and sure enough, quite a few, I was very surprised.  Considering what the components or bullets are, you would think there would be quality control up front and during the manufacturing process.  The primary reason I reload is because I had factory ammo that hit the dirt 20 feet in front of the target and I just could not accept the lottery of good/bad/maybe. 

If my rifle had sustained damage like the pictures in the ink showed, I think I would be pretty difficult with the primer manufacturer. 



 Posted: Thu Oct 13th, 2011 12:50 AM
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I can't fault Winchester on this one.

This guy is loading way too hot!

I checked 5 different manuals and only one of them listed his load as maximum, and that one allowed it only with one single bullet.

The quoted load is at least 1.5 grains above what most manuals list as maximum. that is 7% too much powder. I expect he was exceeding 50,000 psi.

If he had followed the normal rule for changing components of reducing 10% and working back up he probably would not have gotten into trouble.

That said, I used to be a big .44 Magnum fan and I always considered 22 H-110 grains to be absolute max and 22 grains with a 240 grain bullet produced totally flattened primers with an occasional puncture. I normally loaded 20 grains.

The load he was using is simply asking for trouble.

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Last edited on Thu Oct 13th, 2011 12:55 AM by williamwaco



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As william said.

I use Winchester primers virtually exclusively, have for 2+ decades, rifle, pistol, shotgun, not 1 problem.



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