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I start with new or ones fired brass and either neck or full length size. I deburr the inside and uniform all the primer pockets. I use the Sinclair primer pocket tool for this procedure , then i trim all to the same length and bevel sightly the inside and outside of the case mouth. If i am loading for my varmint rifle i turn the case necks with my Sinclair neck turning tool, just enought to make all necks consistiant so you get even bullet pull and this also makes sure the bullet is seated straight. I use straight line seating dies with most of my really accurate rifles. I used to weight cases but could really never tell a whole lot of difference, so only do this procedure if i am working up an accurate load . I weight every load when loading for my rifles, no exceptions. I use the stoney point over-all length gauge to get my seating depth in all my rifles. For big game hunting , i alway full length size, for the varmint rifles i neck size a lot of the times , even tho i can't tell any difference in group size. Sounds like a lot of work, but if you don't try to load to many case in one session it is not that bad. My opinion a rifle will shoot only as good as the loads you feed it.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 02:56 PM |
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I'm pretty much the same as you. For new brass I'll full length resize, chamfer, go thru all the primer pockets, then load. Same for both rifle or handgun. I've chamfered the flash hole, and not done it and I cannot detect any difference. For fired brass I'll full length resize, then tumble until nice and clean, then load. I have learned to trust my powder measures more and more. I've never had to re adjust one in the middle of a loading cycle. I really like my Lyman DPS 1200 for dispencing powder. It's quick and accurate. billt
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| Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 03:21 PM |
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Some of the same here. For new brass I full length size, trim if needed, chamfer/deburr the case mouth, deburr flash hole, weigh the cases to check consistency, then start loading. I like the Stoney Point tool for finding bullet seating depth. I never have bought a pocket uniformer, or a neck turner.
Are you turning the inside or outside of the necks? I'd kind of like to try that and see if it helps my 223 and 308 loads.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 06:11 PM |
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I do as the masses seem to do.
New, old whatever, I'll take the brass and full length size it after cleaning them in the tumbler if they need it (never tried neck sizing and according to the Sierra Manual it's not that big of a deal but I dunno, heard too much praise about it for too long to discount its benefits). Once it's full length sized I'll throw it in the tumbler again to get the sizing lube off. I'll inspect them, then I'll trim, de-burr the flash hole and uniform the primer pocket. Then if they're ready to load I go ahead and do that. I try to keep ahead of "not ready to load" cases so that there's hardly any stored that aren't ready to be primed and charged.
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When you guys are uniforming the primer pockets do you turn it by hand, or are you using a drill on slow speed?
I've thought of getting the Sinclair set for large and small rifle. Seems like it could be used on fired cases to clean the carbon residue out as well as square the pocket on new cases. I've had the Lee pocket cleaner for as long as I've been reloading and it does an ok job.  But having the pockets squared might help.
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I just finished resizing 500 new .500 S&W cases. I did it in my RCBS single stage Rockchucker and it took 1 1/2 hours. I have Carbide Dies, so lubeing wasn't necessary. Next I'm going to expand and bell the case mouths, then square and cut the primer pockets. After that I'll prime with the RCBS Hand APS Primer , (uses the strips and works great). Then charge and fill. Considering what they want for factory loaded rounds in .500 S&W, no matter how long it takes, I'll be money ahead. billt
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2005 01:36 AM |
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I grab up what ever I have, smear a little case lube on, size and decap, then, run in the Lee chuck, stick the trimmer in to see if it touches, squeeze a stainless steel pad around the case, stick a brass brush in the neck, inside and outside debur with the Lee tool and after removing the case from the chuck, take a pass at the primer pocket with the Lee cleaning tool.
Ready to prime and load.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 9th, 2005 01:42 PM |
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Virgin brass, I primer pocket uniform with an EJS tool.I then flash hole deburr .All virgin brass get full length resized and checked for trim length.
I only neck size my 223 Rem and 308 Win brass.I am doing this too with the 223 Rem AI but using a different approach than the standard neck sizing die.I`ll get into this later in the 223 AI thread.
Fired cases go into the tumbler for about 30 minutes .Then they are either Full length or neck resized.Checked for trim length and then go back into the tumbler until I`m satisfied with the cleanliness and polish.
They then go to the loading block where they all get a charge of pan weighed powder.I dispense a lighter charge with the throw,then trickle it to finish in the pan.
Bullet gets inserted in the shell holder with seating die in the press.I run it about half way into the seating die,spin the cartridge 180 degrees and finish the seat..
I only neck size my 7x57 mm brass.I don`t have a ball mic,but my brass removal from the neck is very minimal.Does it work?I can`t say,but...
This is a group from my 7x57 at 100 yards ..3 shots outside diameter of .46 inch ..CTC group of .180".I`ll keep necksizing these..
This is the lower group behind 36 grains of VARGET and a 140 gr Sierra Gameking.
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I'm seriously thinking of getting one of those powered "Case Prep" tools. RCBS makes a nice one that does everything in one shot. Case prep is a real pain in the butt, and it would be worth it to have a nice all in one tool that would make it easier and speed things up. billt
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=565099
This one is nice.
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Timber, your cases went straight from the tumbler to getting powder. All that powder's gonna come out if you don't put in a primer. 
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Gunrunner - yep I do the handtool thing which is an unpleasant thing to do unless you're sitting in front of the tv and watching your favorite show for a few hours - no hurry. Otherwise it's a rather mundane and painful task.
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...Do I have to have primers???