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Posted: 7 June 2008 07:43 PM |
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Years ago I used to load up Winchester 452 AA powder behind a 200 Gr. LSWC moving at about 850 FPS for target shooting in my 45 ACP. Anyone out there know a powder with the same or similar characteristics?
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Posted: 7 June 2008 11:01 PM |
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Wow, a blast from the past. Haven't seen a powder with that name on it since I was a kid loading shotgun shells with my uncle.
From what I can see, Win 231 is the closest in burn rate characteristics...but that doesn't mean too much. I prefer using Unique for just about all my 'plinking' loads in the .45ACP. And for the +P stuff I prefer the AA#5.
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Posted: 7 June 2008 11:21 PM |
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Yep it is an old powder I still have half a lb left and its still good just hate to use it up, those bastards disco'd it for some reason. I have no clue why it was one of their top powders.
I use 231 in my 9mm loads but am not crazy about it, IMHO it burns to hot. Unique is way smokey .
I was thinkin of Accurate #2 or #5 whats your thoughts on those powders?
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Posted: 7 June 2008 11:55 PM |
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Too much 'left over' space in the big cases for the AA#2, but the AA#5 is quite good. You get a fairly decent burn from it(equals not much fouling), and the velocity range is pretty large.
Run the AA#5 in a couple of Kimbers and some 1991A1's with no problems.
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Posted: 8 June 2008 02:24 AM |
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Thanks for the Info, Yea I use AA#7 in my 44 Mag Ruger Redhawk with some hot loads, after about 18 shots my hands get numb .
Speaking of old powders what ever happened to Alliants Reloader 12? I loved it for my 30-06 loads in my M-1 still got 2 lbs of it. 
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Posted: 23 July 2008 05:54 AM |
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Many years ago Hodgdon marketed surplus 452AA as "Trap 100". I'm still shooting it in 45acp and 40 S&W from a batch I purchased on the cheap in the 80's. Good, clean burning powder. Oddly enough I've never used it for shotshells.
Current powders of similar burn rate would include Titegroup, Zip, and Alliant Promo to name a few. Of course different powder burn rate charts will give different answers to the same question. In loading 40 S&W I've found Titegroup to offer similar velocities with same same powder charges compared to my Trap 100. Good luck and hope this helps....
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