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Posted: 22 April 2008 09:10 PM |
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I was reading though the Weaponeer forums and I noticed that someone is rebarreling an SKS to 6.5 Grendel.
Now I'm really tempted. It doesn't look all that hard to do and should really extend it's practical range.
What do y'all think?
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Posted: 22 April 2008 10:33 PM |
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Darkmeat
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Posted: 22 April 2008 11:29 PM |
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I've heard a lot of good about that caliber as far as range and accuracy, so I figure that with a barrel either SKS length(20.36") or 24" I'll see a major increase in practical range(maybe out to 600 or more yards for the SKS length and further for the 24") and a group size going from the 3MOA of a standard one to maybe 1 or less.
The action is very overbuilt and strikes me as a good "tinkering" action. It should handle the pressure just fine. The barrel is just a screw in right into the receiver, so there's very little to botch.
The only problem is that the built in magazine is just a hair too short for 6.5 Grendel, so it would require just a bit of tweaking to the mag(if it isn't just replaced with modified AR mags, which is possible but would require more work than I'd like to do).
It should work in semi-auto mode just fine. If it doesn't, then I'll have a straight pull bolt action rifle.
Total estimated cost: 400$
A barreled action is 50$, a stock is another 50$(for a plastic one, or a lot less for a wood one), the barrel will run around 2-300$ to have one made.
I've heard a lot of crap from people because the SKS is favorite rifle, but I figure that if it's a good platform in it's regular caliber that in a better caliber it will be a great platform.
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Posted: 23 April 2008 12:30 AM |
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Sounds interesting. Sounds like you might get AR accuracy from an SKS.
Keep us posted on your progress.
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Darkmeat
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Posted: 23 April 2008 12:44 AM |
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Will do.
First order of business is saving up the cash for this.
And AR accuracy is my goal. Even if I don't reach my goal, I'll
have one hell of a nice gun.
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Posted: 23 June 2008 02:16 AM |
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For accuracy with an sks the orginal 7,62x39 is accurate. My chinese norinco paratrooper w/16" barrel with chinese norinco ammo @ 100yds will group 1 1/2" benchrested. My chinese norinco 20" barrel scoped will shoot under 1" groups @ 100yds benchrested, again using chinese norinco ammo which i have read that the white box winchester ammo is as accurate too.
Ever since i purchased my very first chinese norinco sks we were always blasting away at soda cans rather than take the accuracy seriously until I purchased my paratrooper while waiting for a cease fire at the local range to put out our targets I zeroed in on a small rock on the berm at 100yds and hit it. At first i figured no way then i did it again. With paper @ 100yds my son and me had the same scores.
Before seeing having this happen i would laugh when i seen a sniper sks or even laugh when someone said they were accurate.
I never compared the other sks to see how they shoot against the chinese norinco. I have the Russian, the Albanian, the Romanian and the yugo's which i haven't shot yet. Someday i'd like to see the results using the same ammo with the same shooter(me my son) to compare them.
For the info/record; I had a yugo M59 sks with a shot out barrel, so i thought. I purchased a chinese chromed line barrel and chamber to change it out. While the barrels were interchangable the yugo barrel was 180 degrees off. When it tightened up the sights were on the bottom with the gas port. I later found out the crud in the barrel wasn't corrosion, it was residue from shooting rubber bullets. After a few soakings using the orginal G.I. Rifle Bore Cleaner it melted it out and i now have shootable decent bores in all my yugo M59's.
I was thinking about rechambering an sks too but more along the lines of an german 8mm Kurtz or in Czech 7,62x45. I'm very surprised the 7,62x45 never caught on. With it being more powerful over the 7,62x39. 
I think the very first sks's were offered to take the place of our 22 semi's there like the big boys 22's. It was fun to plink and blast away using cheap imported ammo at one time. Those days are gone for sure now, i don't think we'll see cheap ammo again. I was paying $59 for 1000rds for 7,62x39 at one time. Just a few years ago i was paying $99 for 1,000rds of 223(wolf). But that another story.....
I was always wondering why no one ever offered a disc with a hole in it to install in the gas port so the gas system could be adusted. I'm sure there is some over travel and time wasted in the cycle timing on the sks too. With an assortment of drilled discs we could adjust the gas flow. Ever wonder about that? I have read were there is marks inside the receiver were the bolt carrier slams into the back of the receiver. I don't like buffers but i would like to see a stronger recoil spring with an adjustable gas flow.
I been hoping that Priv-Partizan ammo company would offer new 7,62x45 ammo someday soon too. I have 1,500rds stashed away and i hate to shoot it up if no other ammo is available.
Last edited on 23 June 2008 02:41 AM by BigBill
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Darkmeat
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Posted: 23 June 2008 06:26 AM |
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With wolf ammo, my SKS will shoot 2-3MOA. As far as a "sniper" SKS, I think such a thing would be better accomplished with a better caliber but that the SKS platofrm is definitely one with the potential to become something able to get <1" groups if done up right.
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BigBill
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Posted: 5 October 2008 07:48 PM |
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I think the accuracy of the sks is way under estimated. I didn't find out they were accurate until i got serious with it on paper at 100yds. We were just too busy shooting soda cans and blasting 30rd mags.
My scoped 20" barreled sks was shooting well under 1" groups while i was sighting it in. Then I noticed the cheap sloppy manufactured scopemount came loose on my last shot while zeroing it. Now i picked up a mosin nagant style scopemount and put it on my sks and its rock solid. Now i need to sight it in next with chinese norinco ammo. I can't wait to see what accuracy it will end up with. We will see if the sks can measure up to a sniper rifle or not.
There were two or three different yugo sks sniper versions. The mosin nagant style scopemount was on one of them.
I went back to the gun dealer i purchased my paratroopper sks from and asked him about the accuracy and his personal paratrooper i purchased from him. I asked him if he had or did any work on his sks before he sold it to me because its shooting 1 1/2" groups at 100yds. He told me the gun is orginal and untouched.
As far as different scopemounts for the sks i have 3 or 4 of them in a draw. I purchased many of them trying to deceide which one to use after having a bad experience with 1 of them. You need the ak47 rail mounted scopemount or the mosin nagant scopemount to have a solid mounted scope that will hold the zero at all times.
While i have a few cases of the chinese norinco ammo i'm shooting my very first case of the yellow box norinco ammo. I don't shoot too much of this ammo because its steel core. I have heard rumors that the white boxed winchester ammo is suppose to be as good as the norinco ammo too. I have also read that the russian made barnaul ammo is suppose to be very accurate too. Its suppose to be the best quality russian made ammo out of all the russian ammo manufacturers. I guess when i finally sight in my scoped sks i'll have to sit and compare ammo too.
I would like to rebarrel an sks to 8mm kurz.....if you use a pinned in barrel sks it should be really easy to do. If your going to a 6,5 grendal can you rechamber a swede mauser barrel? Then you get the swedish quality steel barrel.
Last edited on 5 October 2008 08:05 PM by BigBill
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Posted: 10 November 2008 06:41 PM |
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BigBill, my experiences echo yours. I shot my Yugo SKS on a rest, with 6X full length scope and gas system closed - a 'straight-pull bolt action' mode. Using Remington 123 gr. FMJ commercial ammo, I was shooting one inch groups at the 100 yard mark.
Winchester commercial shot as good groups, but POI was a couple inches lower and right - Winny does this a lot with my guns, any caliber! Don't know why...
Best surplus I found was the white-box East German stuff that is no longer available - I wish I'd stocked up on more. It shot a consistent 1.5 inch group.
Russian Ulyanovsk factory was next best, with 2 inch groups.
Wolf did lousy - 5 to 6 inch patterns! 
The only Norinco ammo I ever tried was their soft point back in the mid-nineties - my Norinco SKS back then (sold awhile back) would not chamber it! It hit the lower face of the chamber. FMJ and HP did fine. Another conundrum.
I have also found that the SKS is prone to the barreled action having a lot of vertical play - I minimise this with a small filler between the fore end and barrel, to make a pressure point - a trick learned from shooting my rimfires. It works.
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Posted: 11 November 2008 09:41 PM |
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I have a full case of the east german 7,62x39 somewhere. I purchased as much as i could afford at the time when the norinco ammo was available. I have mostly yellow box (steel core)and silver box norinco ammo. I got one case of the 7,62x54r norinco ammo too just before the shortage hit. Well they stopped importing it.
I just purchased some russian manufactured barnaul soft point ammo to try in my sks and in my saiga in 223 to see how accurate it is. I'd like to shoot some yotes soon.
Last edited on 11 November 2008 09:43 PM by BigBill
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Posted: 12 November 2008 12:20 AM |
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Gotta love those SKS long range 5 meter match rifles..They are tough at 5 meters...
jk fellas.,..
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Posted: 12 November 2008 01:01 AM |
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