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 Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 03:35 PM
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just wondering if they are any good for anything??? not trying to start a war with whats a better gun, just wanting some info,,, I have a Ariska 38 but it needs a stock and i see they run about 125.00 and i didnt know if it was worth fixing up. it still has the mum intact but is missing the bolt cover... thanks



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 Posted: Sun Sep 6th, 2009 03:45 PM
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Despite the almost universal disdain for Japanese manufactured rifles in days gone by, the Type 38 and the Type 99 are both very well designedand built varients of the '98 Mauser. Some of the "last ditch" 99s are not safe. but the 38 was prewar or early war, and of pretty good quality.

Well worth the cost of restocking, IMO, and replica/replacement bolt covers are/were available from several sources. I won't worry about bolt covers on my rifles, the Japanese trops didn't like them because they often rattled, and somehow got "lost" when on patrol.

I've got a Type 38 carbine, which was sporterized in the '50's by the look. I've kept an eye out for furniture for several years, but can't find any to speak of. Otherwise I would straighten the bolt handle and restock it as original. I'll keep looking.



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Charley wrote:
Despite the almost universal disdain for Japanese manufactured rifles in days gone by, the Type 38 and the Type 99 are both very well designedand built varients of the '98 Mauser. Some of the "last ditch" 99s are not safe. but the 38 was prewar or early war, and of pretty good quality.

Well worth the cost of restocking, IMO, and replica/replacement bolt covers are/were available from several sources. I won't worry about bolt covers on my rifles, the Japanese trops didn't like them because they often rattled, and somehow got "lost" when on patrol.

I've got a Type 38 carbine, which was sporterized in the '50's by the look. I've kept an eye out for furniture for several years, but can't find any to speak of. Otherwise I would straighten the bolt handle and restock it as original. I'll keep looking.


not to show my ignorance but what do they mean when they say "sporterized" ???? ive seen it before, i have a guy that wants to trade me a "sporterized" british 303 for a mosburg 500 12 ga but i dont know what sporterized means :)



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In its purist form, sporterized means a military rifle reworked to a sporter configuration. Some of them are works of art. In its basest form, a Bubba with a hacksaw cut off the barrel, used a hatchet to shorten the forend, and cold bent the bolt over by pounding on it with a sledge.

Every case is an individual...not every rifle that has been sporterized is ruined, not every rifle that has been cut up is sporterized. Depends on your taste and needs, I suppose.



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the type 38 is generally a well made rifle.I've been collecting for a few years and reloading them.I bought a series 29 not long ago. There wasn't but 7745 made of that series. As far as shooting, I think they are sweet. They have less recoil and accuracy is attainable with youth just starting out.Good beginner rifle. I've actually hot loaded them to test and they keep on shooting.

 

 



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the japanese type 38 was one of the strongest of the military mauser type actions , hardly seems like it but it is ,also the lil cartridge may be small and humble but is very efficient( yes i'm partial to the 6.5 caliber -in almost any form ) it's a great deer round if one has a decent shooter and as they said it wont beat ya ta death doin it ! ( btw ? the 6.5 swede is my fav)
sporterizing is just changing it from factory spec's be it cutting the stock ,barrel or adding a scope etc.( variable degrees but still sporterizing )



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I have messed with a few of them. Made a decent .270 out of one, but there is no way to effectively put a differnt safety on one and the  big knob on the back makes for interference  on a scope . Fine if one has no plans to sportorize one.If so there are better platforms to start from



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ok thanks for the help yall :) :thumbs:



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You can go to http://www.surplusrifle.com for information on your rifle



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Hold yer horses there Sadlesore!

 

  Timney makes a side safety for the Type38. You don't need to use the palm safety any more.

  The answer to the Jap ammo is to have it re chambered in 6.5x257 Roberts. A lot of the old 38's got this treatment when they were sporterized. I had mine re barreled in 260 Rem. The barrel was shot out.

   Just for a side note. I was told when P.O.Ackley and Jack O Conner were working up their loads they had been known to blow up Mausers but never an Arasaka.

   I think it is a great platform for a project gun!



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My shooting and reloading buddy has two Arisaka rifles, one in 6.5 and one in 7.7 calibers.  He converts other brass to make his ammo, as does another older gentleman (a WWII vet) we see at the range.

I once read of an intentional 'destructive test' done some years back using the 6.5mm rifle - the author managed to put a .30-06 or .308 round into it and fired it from a rest (using a string to trip the trigger, as I recall).  The bolt had to be beaten open - but the rifle did NOT blow up.  A very strong action indeed!



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I think Graf's has the brass for them now. Plus a couple of the importers are making ammo for both of them now also I believe.

Recently my brother just older than me brought by a gun from my fathers estate. Dad left all of his guns to him. He gave it to me. It was my fathers bring back gun from WWII. Looked like it had been stored in a chicken house. Cleaned it up. All I need is a bolt for it and I think I'll have a shooter. It's my third Arisaka.



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