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Raccoon and possum vs. turkey population
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 Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 12:01 PM
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Was wondering if any studies have been done showing just how many turkey's are lost each year due to the raccoon/possum egg thieving?  Was wanting to get a printout of a local(anywhere in Arkansas) study, but any will due, just to show this 'greenhorn' warden that trapping is a good thing.

 

Been doing something different this year to help the turkey population at the deer lease...been trapping the little critters.  Trapping season has ended and the local biologist has decided that no additional trapping is necessary to control the amazing numbers of the raccoon?  I can still trap for coyote , but they are currently winning the battle.  Avoiding my traps completely, and staying far enough away from the snares seems to be the 'norm'. 

Hoping that reducing the number of raccoon by 39, and the possum by 12, that the turkey will have a few less unwanted critters getting in their nesting sights.

 

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 Posted: Tue Apr 15th, 2008 06:02 PM
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Just Google "raccoon turkey depredation." There are quite a few hits, including one for MS.



 Posted: Thu Apr 17th, 2008 02:14 PM
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Don't have any specific figures but they do play havoc on eggs if they can find them.  The biggest thing one can do is to improve nesting habitat - though taking out a few predators won't necessarily hurt either:wink:



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 Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 05:53 AM
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 Erithizon dorsatum do a lot of damage to trees. Procyon lotor & Didelphus marsupialus may need a reduction if research shows they adversely effect turkey populations.



 Posted: Mon Apr 28th, 2008 02:20 AM
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scr83jp wrote:  Erithizon dorsatum do a lot of damage to trees. Procyon lotor & Didelphus marsupialus may need a reduction if research shows they adversely effect turkey populations.
W H A T????????????:confused:



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Porcupine = Erithizon dorsatum;Didelphus marsupialus =Opossum, Procyon lotor =raccoon I  went to college to be a wildlife mgt biologist but never worked in the field,I still remember all of the genus & species names. .

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 Posted: Tue Apr 29th, 2008 11:39 AM
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These coons are harder to find then that.  Pine plantations out number hardwood growth 75 to 1......

 

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"Mortuus ad hystrux" - Death to porcupine.

I think I told the tale of 'Ole white patch' and his reign of terror up by our cabin. For several years he chewed though key structural supports in tree stands and the floors.

He had the uncanny ability to appear and disappear when a gun was retrieved. He was not so lucky in above pic.

I am providing a link to the "after" shot and what a .44 mag 180 grain neck shot does. Not for woman or children:

http://buckmountainchateau.com/images/porky_after.jpg

 

 

 



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wolfkill wrote: "Mortuus ad hystrux" - Death to porcupine.

I think I told the tale of 'Ole white patch' and his reign of terror up by our cabin. For several years he chewed though key structural supports in tree stands and the floors.

He had the uncanny ability to appear and disappear when a gun was retrieved. He was not so lucky in above pic.

I am providing a link to the "after" shot and what a .44 mag 180 grain neck shot does. Not for woman or children:

http://buckmountainchateau.com/images/porky_after.jpg That's not what I expected I was expecting to look at a porky blown into chunks like some of the ones my friends have hit with a 30-06 Ackley Improved HP round.
 

 

 



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Yes this is an old thread, but...  We are so over run with coons and opossums here here on my place, we live trap them year around. One way they find nesting birds is, just before hatching, the baby birds peep, and the preditors can hear that, and clean the nest out! I've actually seen it happen...

Anyway, i already sent three coons and a possy to coon/possy heaven since Mar. 1 alone.

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I went to harbor freight and purchased a large live trap and bait it with a secured can of cat food to live trap nuisance critters & get disposed of by contacting animal control who do pick them up.



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