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WildBill
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Posted: 2 December 2006 04:06 PM |
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Anybody use red dot or holo sights? I use a Truglo 3 dot red dot scope on my croosbow. The only down side so far for me is remembering to turn the scope off at the end of the day.
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Posted: 4 December 2006 11:47 AM |
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ive got the red dot on my shotgun... yes, make sure you turn it off when your done.. i do carry an extra battery just in case.
i have talked to a few guys that use halo sights on their handguns and they say when you have the sun at your back its hard to pick up....
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wolfkill
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Posted: 4 December 2006 02:18 PM |
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I used a Bushnell Trophy? which has 4 different reticles for bear this fall.
For up close work I loved it, but this fall at 50 yards I needed a scope to see the antler on a 4" spike. My binoc's were broke and in for repair. I think I let him go by the 1st day with the aimpoint and took him the next day with a 3x9 scope.
I have 2 red dots, a Bushnell and Aimpoint. 100 yards is my max for big game with them.
 Typical deer camp arsenal with red dot, 3x9 scope, iron sights, 1.5x4.5 scope
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WildBill
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Posted: 4 December 2006 02:49 PM |
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Nice bear Wolfkill. I'm an unsuccessfull bear hunter. I get drawn every time I apply, but someone forgets to tell the bear that I have a licence. What's that rifle your holding. Looks interesting.
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wolfkill
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Posted: 4 December 2006 04:36 PM |
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They call it a New England Firearm (NEF).
Cheap but good quality. I post on a NEF site where I'm known as "bearfat":
http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/smf/index.php/board,126.0.html
Bought it used at Gander Mountain for $190.00 and at first I figured the guy sold it due to one heck of a kick (30-06) but was not the case. It's actually pretty heavy rifle. The barrel is 21" although it looks like a carbine. Thinking of putting a very low power scope on it...probably a Leupold 1x4 shotgun. The red dot aimpoint is ok but I think I'm going to limit it to guns I use for bear and turkey hunting (under 30 yards).
I've been wanting to put a red dot on my bow. Have a 1x pistol scope on it now that works OK but the red dot would give me that last 10 mins of prime time.
WildBill did I ever mention night hunting to you up there for coyote/fox? If you got that lynx/cougar cat on film you can hunt coyote/fox at night in a sniper bunker.
I don't have alot of info yet on my website http://buckmountainchateau.com/ about sniper bunker bait hunting at night but if you snoop around the pages you do see some photo's. You can plan the hunt around full moon phases and not have to buy an expensive Schmidt and Bender scope like I have. I originally used American scopes and they are fine if you have some moon light over the snow to help.
I'm planning a Feb 5-9 hunt for a week at the rat shack for the chicken rustlers. I'll be picking up as many road kill deer as I can between now and then and dropping them for bait at 2 locations (cabin & siper bunker). You need the road kill permits which any peace officer will give you.
I've had lots of fun over the years sneaking down to the sniper bunker to see what was visiting the bait. I had a turkey vulture put on a show for two crows one hot summer day. He strutted around on top of the carcass stretching out his wings back and forth. I'm sure he was telling the crows, "Aaaarrhhh...mine all mine."
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WildBill
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Posted: 4 December 2006 09:23 PM |
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Don't they also call those NEF rifles Handy rifles? I've herd they are pretty good for what they cost. I'll have to keep them in mind. I'll have my property tax rebate check next August for this years renters rebate. I'm planning on buying a new rifle with it if nothing comes up. I'd like to get a auto loader in probably 308, but may considder a NEF.
I didn't realize until a few years ago that night hunting for coyote was legal. Until I read an artical in the outdoor new about a guy using a night vision scope to shoot coyotes.
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wolfkill
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Posted: 5 December 2006 05:03 AM |
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The great thing about the Handi rifle is for under $100.00 they will headspace a different caliber barrel for you. I think it only takes a couple mins to change the barrels out once you have them.
I'm Leaning towards a 22 hornet or the 45-70. I need either one like I need a flat tire.
If a guy was young and just starting his firearm collection the savings would be tremendous. You could put some really nice glass on from the savings.
I've stayed away from the scope electronics and went with the German extremely heavy outer crosshairs on a Schmidt and Bender 8x. It has a 56mm objective. If it's a wide open shot in a pasture over snow at night I can usually see to make a 100 yard shot. If I'm deep in the woods and it's really dark well...I know they're out there but just can't center them with certainty. I'm talking no moonlight. Cloudy, dark nights are the best I've found for activity.
I've had as many as three coyote in at the same time, snarling, and fighting over the carcass. I've also had wolf come in. But you generally know they're in the area due to the much bigger tracks plus the demeaner is very distinct between fox, coyote and wolf. The wolf is king. He acts like it. The other two are nervous and jumpy.
As you know it is illegal to shoot wolf. I would pay the State of MN $500.00 for a one time tag if they ever opened a season. They never will though. Outsiders will see to that. The crazy thing is in Ontario just across the border all I need is a small game license. I have gone up there for them but didn't really know what I was doing.
I see the electronics is getting cheaper for night scopes. I do use a hand held night vision device for the initial determination that something is on my bait. It was fairly cheap at Walmart with a 5x optical zoom and the sides of the lens are quite blurry but the center works good enough for what I need.
Bushnell had something called a firefly? crosshair recently that I thought might work ok. Anyone ever use the Bushnell firefly at night for varmints?
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Posted: 5 December 2006 12:07 PM |
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This is an EO-Tech I mounted on my wifes Bushmaster Carbon 15 21S Pistol. They take a little getting used to, but once you do they are really nice. I like the fact it doesn't create that "looking thru a tube" effect like a red dot does. She can nail pop cans out past 100 yards with it easily. If you go with a Holographic sight go with EO-Tech because they are all Mil-Spec. The glass is 3/16ths of an inch thick. Bill T.
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wolfkill
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Posted: 5 December 2006 02:53 PM |
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billt I handled a Bushnell holographic one day at the range. I do remember thinking, "Wow these things are strange the way they seem to project the sight out almost 3D like."
Looks like the price is almost the same but you get Mil-Spec quality with EO-Tech.
Say...Is that the wife in your avitar? Can you make it just a tad larger? It certainly is an eye catching photo!!!!
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Posted: 5 December 2006 05:17 PM |
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wolfkill wrote: billt Say...Is that the wife in your avitar? Can you make it just a tad larger? It certainly is an eye catching photo!!!!
 
Here ya' go. Bill T.
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Posted: 5 December 2006 06:39 PM |
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just mounted a Tru glo 2x optical sight on my AR-15, has a see thru scope base so that the iron sights are available, I wanted a red dot for quick sight picture in low light, this set up lets me use it as a optical sight, a scope, or use the iron sights.
As far as the nef handi-rifles go, they are inexpensive but are very accurate, the .204s me and my boy have will print under 1/2 inche at 100 yds, we got into a little contest and we were picking eggs off of coke cans at 200yds, that is until my boy figured out that shooting the coke can destroys both! ended the contest! only draw back to the NEFs is the triggers aren't that great and short of a visit to the gunsmith no way to adjust them.
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Posted: 5 December 2006 09:35 PM |
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crazy2medic wrote: As far as the nef handi-rifles go, they are inexpensive but are very accurate, the .204s me and my boy have will print under 1/2 inche at 100 yds, we got into a little contest and we were picking eggs off of coke cans at 200yds, that is until my boy figured out that shooting the coke can destroys both! ended the contest! only draw back to the NEFs is the triggers aren't that great and short of a visit to the gunsmith no way to adjust them.
That rifle is sounding even better. I might get seriouse about getting one for next season.
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wolfkill
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Posted: 10 December 2006 12:52 PM |
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billt excellent pic's. A woman with a gun looks so sexy.
crazy2medic at 200 yards you can use a wood/plastic golf tee under the egg and stipulate any hit on the tee and you lose the point.
When I was range officer one year at my club I had a varmint rifle shoot off doing the above. At 100 yards we used small paint balls.
It didn't matter the boys were quite pathetic and could hit neither.
I did mount my aimpoint on my AR-15 once but the results were quite poor compared to scopes I've put on it. I don't know why. Last edited on 10 December 2006 12:54 PM by wolfkill
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Posted: 18 November 2007 07:25 PM |
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| I have an Eotech holosight on one of my ARs. I really like it for plinking. We set up clay pigeons in holders at verying distances out to 100yards and have competitions. I prefer scopes most of the time but it is fun for a change of pace. After using it as much as I have I can see how it would be great for close quarters combat.
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Posted: 24 November 2007 01:57 PM |
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| I have a Leupold Gilmore on an M4. I use it mostly for plinking and shooting armadillos.
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Posted: 27 November 2007 12:47 AM |
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I know I started this thread a year ago. It looks like I will have a new rifle next deer season. Not sure on the make. It will most likely be an autoloader in .308. I'm looking at Bushnell Trophy or Eotech. Any opinions.
Bill
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Posted: 29 November 2007 05:25 AM |
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| I own a Eotech and have handled a Bushnell. Both are pretty nice. Just have to say The Eotech just gives me a better feeling. I personally know they are tough enough for everyday use and I didn't get that same feeling from the Bushnell. Wish I had better info but that is my gut feeling on it.
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WildBill
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Posted: 29 November 2007 05:55 AM |
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Thanks. I'm leaning towards the Eotech.
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Posted: 29 November 2007 03:03 PM |
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| I have an EOTech on my Bushmaster V-Match carbine. Out here in ranch country I find you can work very well with it WAY beyond 100Y, as many coyotes have found to their fatal displeasure. It's my "go-to" gun and I recommend the EOT 100%.
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Posted: 29 November 2007 03:25 PM |
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Iam sold on EOTech.I have one on my M-4 and depend on it daily.I literally trust it with my life.It is the best close quarters combat sight in the world in my opinion.The standard Army issue aimpoint CCO is garbage up next to an EOTECH..I have fired mine on 300 meter ranges and out to 250 meters I can nail consistently.Inside 200,game over damned near every shot.The good thing is if needed I can still flip up my peep sight and see through the EOTech to take a longer shot if needed.
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