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Who makes the best rifle in the $1,000- $1,500 range?
What caliber would you reccomend for western big game hunting with shots out to 500 yards? I have a 7mm Rem mag now, would a 7mm Ultra be a change to what I am shooting now. Is it time to step up to 300 Win Mag or some other .30 caliber?
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I gather from the totality of your post that you think your 7mm Mag can be improved upon for game in New Mexico and surrounding area, and that you're willing to spend $1K to $1.5K to do so.
It's all personal preference. I like Rugers and Remingtons. I don;t know if they're any better or worse than Weatherbys, Tikkas, Savages, Howas, or Marlins, but I like them.
I once had a Rem700BDL in 7mm Mag. It had a Redfield Widefield Rangefinder scope on it. At the time, I was about 24 or 25 and knew nothing about high-powered rifles. I never even took it to the range - I just went out in the desert and setup makeshift targets. The recoil was substantial and eventually I sold it. Bad mistake now that I look back.....
If it were me making the decision on a next rifle, and the one I had now was a 7mm Mag, I'd get a 22-250. That will take care of all your varmint hunting and the 7mm Mag will take care of everything else, from antelope to meese...uh...mooses... ((( :D )))
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25th, 2009 04:41 AM |
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save ur bread lolz weatherby has the vanguard but oddly enough it's made by howa which u can pick up for around 5-6 decently dressed in just about any factory caliber u wish ,spend the left over money on a decent scope and reloading supplies
7 mag 300 win mag are all proven performers
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| Posted: Sun Oct 25th, 2009 11:47 AM |
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The 7 mag will do anything that needs to be done on this continent! If you want to burn some cash, have your rifle rebarreled by a good smith, have the rifle pillar bedded and spend some of that hard earned dough on upgrading your rifles optics.
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I do not know, how much a Sako will cost in the US, but those rifles are very accurate right out of the box, do have a good trigger, and if equipped with a good scope, you are ready to go.
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StretchNM wrote: I gather from the totality of your post that you think your 7mm Mag can be improved upon for game in New Mexico and surrounding area, and that you're willing to spend $1K to $1.5K to do so? .....
Tay,
Stretch makes a good point. Unless there's something wrong with your 7 mag, your probably not going to get your $$$$ worth from the change. Now if your like me and want more rifles - Just go for it!
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What more can I say?
Team Savage Dominates F Class World Championships in Bisley, England
F Class World Championships
It seems hard to believe you can compete and win at the highest levels of long-range shooting competition with a stock factory rifle, but that’s exactly what Team Savage did at the recent F Class world championships in Bisley, England. The team dominated the F-T/R division, winning a total of 14 medals at the World Championships proper and various side matches associated with the event.
Stan Pate of Milwaukie, OR,; Darrell Buell Damascus, OR; Monte Milanuk of Wenatchee WA and John Weil of Welches, OR made the trip across the Atlantic to represent the US and Savage Arms. The competition is held once every four years and features some of the best talent and most expensive custom rifles from around the globe. The matches are held over several days, at distances of 800, 900 and 1,000 yards.
The Savage Shooters used the Model 12 F-T/R from Savage Arms. This exact model can be purchased from any Savage Arms dealer and carries a suggested retail price of just $1,265. The results speak for themselves: Team Savage comes home with Seven gold medals, two silvers and two bronze from the World Championships. They also earned two gold medals and a bronze a the associated side matches, including one held in Ireland.
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500 yds is a chip shot for most centerfire rifles. The problem is with the "jerk" on the trigger-lol. We used to shoot iron sighted M-14s at 500 yds and tear up 14" bullseyes. It is not the rifle but who and how it is fired. Practice will put even old 30-30s right on target at that range. That 7mm will do everything you need it to do. If you are like me and your eyes need a bit of help just pick up a good quality scope with adjustable eyepeice and objective. That way you cut out any distortion from your glasses. I am an '06 fanatic(not really) and would not hesitate to fire on a target at most any normal range. The Japaneese used .25s in WWII and ruled the Pacific with them. Again, it is not the caliber but the shooter that has the most control. I have has a couple of shooters that had terrible patterns but they adorn the wall collecting dust now. The most accurate "deer" rifle I have is a Ruger 77 in '06. Amazingly accurate even in my shakey old hands, wc
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The Japaneese used .25s in WWII and ruled the Pacific
the japnese used 6.5 and 7.7 calibers
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6.5 rem mag
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6.5X55
270 wsm
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Is the 6.5 what is commonly called the "Jap 25"??? It comes out mighy close, wc
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At other places in WW II places were dominated by the K98, the Lee Enfield in various marks and the Garand rifle in different makes.
They all were good for the purpose, but I think, a $1000-1500 hunting rifle should be something more than a basic tool.
I never owned an American made rifle besides an old worn out Underwood M1 carbine, but I suppose, in a rifle-country like the USA, one should be able to buy a more than decent rifle for that amount of money.
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-6 wrote:
Is the 6.5 what is commonly called the "Jap 25"??? It comes out mighy close, wc
i'm not familar with the term "jap 25" the type 99 ariska rifle was in 7.7x58 japanese, the type 38 rifle ( or carbine ) was in 6.5x 50 japanese, both are named for the year of introduction( according to the system they used back then ) amazing that they used the 6.5 for 61 years before deciding they needed something a lil bit bigger lolz , i do know quite a few gi bring backs in 6.5 were converted to 6.5x257 so as to have shootable brass, one quik tip to check for a good/decent 6.5 barrel ? a .25 cal bullet if it drops in the bore it's pretty much a waste ,not much difference between a .25 and 6.5 tho ( .257 vs. .264) but enough to make 25 caliber bullets lose about any kind of accuracy ,i have at least one of each and while i'm not real fond of the 7.7. i do love the efficient lil 6.5
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tayhot I se you posted a question about what would be the best caliber for New Mexico.Try the 300 Weatherby mag. or the 300RUM. Both have good bullistics and will work on game up to elk at extended ranges. Also 30-378 fo rthe real ling shots. Last edited on Wed Nov 11th, 2009 11:48 PM by grandman
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The 6.5x50 Jaanese Arisaka was refered to as the 25 Jap for many years post WWII. The nominal bore diameter is .256.
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You can get a 300 RUM in a Remington rifle for really not too much money, I would put the rest into a good scope, new stock and Limb Saver.
But 7mm Mag will do about anything in North America, so will the 300 RUM. I like the RUM because it is a 30 caliber and many of my other rifles are 30 calibers, so I can have a lot of different bullets on hand.
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Thanks for the info on the Arisaka 6.5 (J-25). A buddy just bought one and was asking me. Now we know.
As for the 300 Weatherby Mag.-- it is an awesome round. We have some 200 gr. Sierras pushed by 75gr. and some 190 gr match rounds to play with. My son bought it to hunt out west but is thinking about selling it since moving back. Less than 50 rds through it. Fluted stainless on composite furniture. If interested let me know, wc
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Send pics and asking price for the 300 WBY Mag
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I want to see the pictures too
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Ditto, I'm close enough for ftf comes to that, and I need an excuse to go to SoCar to visit my sister. (Fixed income, but space to wiggle for the right deal.)
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I use a Win. M70 in .270 Win. and make 300-400yrd. shots at elk and make the shot with a 4X scope. the 7mm mag will do the same thing as the 270 will but with heavier pills.
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