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Hello everyone, I just picked up a box of hornady FTX .308 160 gn. I am going to start working up some loads for my 12 yr old son (he is finally old enough to hunt big game in Colorado) I have hornady 7th edition but they dont even list this bullet and I would like to avoid having to buy the 8th edition for 1 recipe if possible, so if any one here has any good recopies that they would like to share I would appreciate it. oh also I have varget unique h110 win 296 h4350 and imr 4831 so if any of those powders work that would be great also! Thanks



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http://www.hornady.com/support/downloads/load-data

From 'the horse's mouth', so to speak.   :thumbs:

 

 



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make sure to report your results, coac. and i hope you have better of it then i did.

i really like the idea of these bullets expanding the performance of cartridges used in tube mag rifles, but they gotta shoot. spent all last summer trying to force an accurate load out of my .307win using these and ramshot's tac powder. per hornady's data, it should have been an ideal combination for the cartridge. exercise in frustration is all it was. almost scary how exact their powder charges and velocity matched up with same charges and chrony'd velocities in my rifle so i was very pleased with that. but the accuracy was absolutely horrid. my last 3 strings on what would end up being my last day of development averaged 3.73" at 100 yards. i trashed the whole project after that.

don't know if it was the light weight of the bullet or what but the old winchester factory stuff i had on hand with the 180 gr. powerpoints simply smoked any load i was able to muster using the ftx's.

i still like the idea of the bullet and may kickstart the project in the future with a new powder. i see hornady's now offering the powder that they use in their leverevolution line of ammunition, which uses these ftx bullets, so i may get ahold of a lb. of that and see what it does. but to this point, my experience with the .308 ftx has been bad.

a sincere good luck to ya.

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I played with the 160 gr. FTX for the Thutty-thutty, but accuracy was no better than my 125 and 150 grain standard bullet loads.  Okay, but nothing to write to Momma about.

My more recent 170 grain JFP loads were laser-accurate in comparison!  I guess my old Marlin 336 likes them heavy and flatnosed......   :cool:



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WOW you guys are quick! thanks for all the info If you guys have any suggestions for loads the might work well for a 12 yr old I'd be glad to hear them we also have some 110 grn bullets but I think that might be a little on the light side for deer. thanks again



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You might try these two sources for loads. RD

http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Youth%20Loads.pdf

http://www.hodgdon.com/PDF/Trail-Boss-data.pdf



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Awesome links thanks



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Hey Chicken, in my 336 im using 30gr of win 748 w/ a coal of 2.550 and a light crimp. Recoil is almost nil and i believe the velocity is around 2000 if i remember right. nothing flashy, but anything the size of a clay pigeon inside of 100yds is in trouble:wink: My dad has a 308mx and with the factory ammo hornady is putting out he has shot groups under an inch with open sights, couldent imagine what it would be like with a good optic on top.
Where at are you located in Colorado?

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make sure to report your results, coac. and i hope you have better of it then i did.

i really like the idea of these bullets expanding the performance of cartridges used in tube mag rifles, but they gotta shoot. spent all last summer trying to force an accurate load out of my .307win using these and ramshot's tac powder. per hornady's data, it should have been an ideal combination for the cartridge. exercise in frustration is all it was. almost scary how exact their powder charges and velocity matched up with same charges and chrony'd velocities in my rifle so i was very pleased with that. but the accuracy was absolutely horrid. my last 3 strings on what would end up being my last day of development averaged 3.73" at 100 yards. i trashed the whole project after that.

don't know if it was the light weight of the bullet or what but the old winchester factory stuff i had on hand with the 180 gr. powerpoints simply smoked any load i was able to muster using the ftx's.

i still like the idea of the bullet and may kickstart the project in the future with a new powder. i see hornady's now offering the powder that they use in their leverevolution line of ammunition, which uses these ftx bullets, so i may get ahold of a lb. of that and see what it does. but to this point, my experience with the .308 ftx has been bad.

a sincere good luck to ya.

k

Hey K, which ftx were you using in your .307 win? The one made for the 30-30 or the one with the longer ogive made for the 308mx?

p.s. i am kind of surprised to hear that you have a .307 in the safe, doesn't go with the trend of a lot of the cartridges mention in your posts....



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I'm in aurora I think Ill try win 748 it seems to be a good choice from what most say and having almost no recoil is great I dont want my son to develop a flinch, he handles the 20 ga I picked up for him pretty well. I'm hoping this gun turns in to a favorite for him.



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What is the rifle? And what animals are on the menu, will he be hunting in the 2011 season?



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WapitiSeeker wrote: Hey K, which ftx were you using in your .307 win? The one made for the 30-30 or the one with the longer ogive made for the 308mx?

p.s. i am kind of surprised to hear that you have a .307 in the safe, doesn't go with the trend of a lot of the cartridges mention in your posts....


there wasn't an ftx specifically for the .30-30 when i was doing my load development last year.  a ".30-30" ftx must be a new offering.

lol.  the .307's my lone foray into the lever action world, at this time.  the winchester 94ae showed up on the used rack one day back in '03.  a total spur of the moment kind of purchase.  you know.  right cartridge, right rifle and condition at the right price" kind of thing.  i like it and have shot it alot but it's never taken an animal.

 

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The ".30-30" FTX is indeed a different bullet than the .30-06 version - thinner skinned for the lower velocities and with the cannelure postioned differently.

It's been available for a couple years - I did my load development in late '09 and early '10.



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the rifle is a glenfield model 30 (made by marlin)as far as whats on the menu we will both put in for deer and elk and see what the dow decides. We have been hunting around buena vista the last few years with good success. 2 years ago my son spotted a 6x6 elk 5 minutes into the hunt opening day and our hunt was over almost before it began! Last year we hunted for 8 days for 11-13 hrs a day and saw 120+ animals no bucks until finally we saw a little fork horned buck, witch by the way is the best tasting deer I've ever ate. I sure hope we will be hunting in 2011 I think he has a good chance at drawing a tag.



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Bigdog57 wrote: It's been available for a couple years - I did my load development in late '09 and early '10.


huh.  interesting.

still marked new on the site.  can't imagine they'd keep the new tag on something thats been out for years.  maybe, i guess.  either way, whenever they came out, i know there wasn't a choice of .308 ftx's on the site when i was doing my initial study into the bullet.  i'd have remembered choices.  i like choices.  lol.

i'm not sure it'd matter if there had been the choice, though.  i know one doesn't work and suspect the sublte design change with the other wouldn't improve things in my 94.  let them come out with a heavy ftx, maybe a 170 or 175, and then we'll see how they do.

 

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I originally got the FTX in my continuing adventure in trying to find a good 'varmint load' for my Savage M340 bolt-action rifle.

I believe the specific .30-30 FTX was the first of the series - then they brought out the .30-06/bigger .30's bullet, and finally the others.  At that time, Hornady had a little bitty block of load data - not nearly a page.  It was all brand new territory!  :thumbs:



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Bigdog57 wrote: I believe the specific .30-30 FTX was the first of the series
 

afternoon, bigdog57.  if this be the case, why is the .30-30 ftx the one listed as new on the hornady website and the ftx designed for the faster .308 cartridges not?  i was under the impression the latter was their flagship ftx and everything else followed after that, including the .30-30 offering.  that would kinda explain why there was no mention of the .30-30 specific ftx when i did my initial fact finding on the bullet a while back and why it's listed now as "new" along with the other "new" offerings for this year that they have listed here :

 http://www.hornady.com/store/FTX



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Hello Chinken on a Chain,

How is your test going? I bought some Hornady .30 caliber FTX bullets that I cannot use. I thought I was buying the 160-grain FTX for the .30-.30. I tried loading these bullets and they did fit right.

I compared them to my other 160-grain FTX bullets from last year and noticed something was not quite right. I looked at the packaging and noticed I bought the wrong bullet.



I purchased the Hornady 30-caliber 160 FTX .308" 308 MX item number 30396. I should have bought the Hornady 30-caliber 160 FTX .308" 160 GR FTX item number 30395. I have no idea what that bullet is supposed to go into, but let me know if you can use them and I will send them to you. I can't use them. They won't fit in .30-.30 brass.



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I will be buying the powder tomorrow so I havent been able to get to far but I will keep you updated and let you know about item 30396 if I can use them thanks



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Chinken on a Chain wrote: WOW you guys are quick! thanks for all the info If you guys have any suggestions for loads the might work well for a 12 yr old I'd be glad to hear them we also have some 110 grn bullets but I think that might be a little on the light side for deer. thanks again

I run their 110gr V-Max over a 48-gr load of WW748BR for Coyotes, my BAR loves it. whistles accross my Chrony right @ 3200fps. 

While I Do think the 130's I use here for deer are plenty (even for our big whitetails that may top 300 pounds and our Muleys), IMO the 110's are both just a tad lighter than I think prudent and most folks 110's are a bit lighter constructed for use as a varmit bullet, not a larger-game bullet.



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