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40-60 Winchester
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 Posted: Sat Apr 14th, 2007 03:52 PM
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I am looking for load data for an original 1876 Winchester rifle in 40-60 cartridge.  The 40-60 seems to be of somewhat limited production and thus less information and availablility of supplies.

  Just stared looking for supplies and information.  To date found a source for brass.

The only load data, so far, is from "Cartridges of the World" which very limited.

Any information and sources would be greatly appreciated.




 Posted: Sat Apr 14th, 2007 04:08 PM
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If I was loading for an original 1876, I'd stick to BP, or possibly one of the other BP substitutes. I think I remember a photo that Mike Venturino had in one of his columns, showing a friend's 1876 that was a total loss, from shooting smokeless in it. Of course, I think they were "gunshow reloads", loaded with and by God knows what and who.

I'm leary of BP era guns loaded with smokeless, for the most part.



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 Posted: Sun Apr 15th, 2007 12:07 PM
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You only want bp recipes ...right:thumbs:



 Posted: Sun Apr 15th, 2007 04:09 PM
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Not nessasarily BP only.  Safety is first concern. 

The limited information I've seen to date, seems to indicate that both BP & smokeless are viable.  I have no experience in this area of  cartridges & riffles, that is why I'm looking for input.

That said, I likely would use smokeless, but only if safe.

any help appreciated!



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In that original rifle I don't think I'ld want to use anything but bp. I'ld go with either goex 3f or cartridge powder in it.

 If you think you must do smokeless (not really a good idea due to the soft steels used and how thin the barrel walls really are) start with about 30%(18grs) of the bp charge of either 2400,4227 or 5744, but do not exceed 45%(27grs) of the bp charge.



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Thanks for the info.  I am by no means married to using smokeless.  I  want to find out as much information as possible before proceeding at all. 

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I agree with Charly, stick with BP on this cartridge/rifle combination. Steve Garbe and Mike Venturino have a load manual, the Black Powder Cartridge Primer, available from Midway. Also, shoot cast bullets. That's what this rifle was made to shoot. I have a friend who has a '86 Wichester in 40-65, but the barrel is so pitted from years of neglect that he may have to have it re-lined. Also, slug your barrel and get the appropriate mould made for it. If the spout is in good condition you may be surprised at how well it shoots.



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