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Hello All,
I'm new to the forum and need some advise. I just purchase a Tikka T3 lite in .270 win. I just finished my hunters education course and initially planned on only hunting white tail and mule deer. Now my buddy and I also want to hunt black bears and cougar to extend out our hunting season. So what I'm looking for is a good handload to fulfill the role for deer, cougar and black bear. I bought all the reloading equipment. I plan on reloading Hornady 150 gr SP Interlock with RL22 powder. Does anyone have any other suggestion? Should I use 130 gr bullets instead, since I've heard that 130 gr are great in .270 win.
Any tips and advice will be greatly appreciated.
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Domreih.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 12:54 AM |
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I have owned a 270 since I was 18, I am now 56, I shoot 130's and while I have never hunted real large game I have never failed to kill what I was shooting at with one shot, since your going to reload I suggest a bullet load running about 2900 fps as it seems to me I get better accuracy, Reloader 22 is a good choice of powders as are some of the IMR loads, If you want to read a good book by a died in the wool 270 fan get your hands on some of Jack O'Conners books, He used a 270 on African safaris.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 02:17 AM |
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Been shooting a 270 since my 15th birthday.130 grain bullets solely.I`ve killed many a nuisance wild hog and enough deer with it to say it is sweet.
My load is with XMR 3100 and a 130 grain Speer bullet.It is a shooter out of my rifle.
I will dig through my load book and give you my data.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 03:22 AM |
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270 Win. is an excellant choice. I have always been partial to 130 gr. bullets, for the velocity, but as I get older I am starting to prefer the slightly slower 150 gr. bullets with H-4350. I have almost always used 4350 powder. Start low and work your way up. By the way IMR and Hodgen are both good choices. Nosler Partitions are as good of a bullet as any, if they will group. They group good in one of my .270's.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 04:28 AM |
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I am going to be working up a load in my 270 for 140 grain partittions next week. If i can make them group i will send the info along. My gun shoots the 130's great but i am looking tho shoot black bear this spring i want something a little bit more solid. I ahve taken a few things with my 270 and they are a great round.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 05:10 AM |
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thanks for all the replies so far. I came across a wildcat bullet maker as I was searching for a good bullet to handload. http://www.wildcatbullets.com does anybody have any experience with them?
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 05:23 AM |
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Never heard of them. But that sure doesnt mean anything. They have some interestin stuff on thier website. I am curios about the results they are posting about the 257 stw. I shoot one and would like to know what type of bullet fired at that velocity and range will not exit an antelope. Maybe I read that wrong?
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 11:09 AM |
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I have shot J-4 type bullets, just none from this product line(linked above). While they work okay, they were definitely nothing to write home about. Maker's such as Hornady, Nosler, Sierra have nothing to worry about from these type bullets....especially when judging them by them price.
The 270Win that I used to hand load for seemed to like shooting Remington standard production bullets in the 130gr weight....strange as it may be, the little hunting rifle would cluster three well aimed rounds into a cloverleaf at 100yards(benchrest).
It's just hard to beat anything but 130grainers in a 270Win......but you can try.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27th, 2007 05:34 PM |
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"It's just hard to beat anything but 130grainers in a 270Win......but you can try."
I've done a lot of reading online on this topic and it does seem that people tend to use 130 gr for their .270win. Chuck Hawk (http://www.chuckhawks.com) wrote an article that the 130 gr is better in a 270win and the 150 gr is better for a 30-06. I don't mind using 130 gr, but my only concern is will it be enough for black bear? I've reading many different opinions on this. Some say that black bear are easy to kill, they only weigh an average of 200 lbs. Some say that 130 gr are only good for white tails and mule deer and that you should use 150 gr for black bear.
Any thoughts? I was thinking about loading 150 gr A-frame, but a nice gentleman at the counter told me to buy 150 gr hornady sp interlock, because he and his father has always used it for all sorts of hunting and it works. I believed his experience and bought a box. Now I'm just looking for some opions and more experiences to help me decide if I should load 130 gr or 150 gr and also type of bullet. I would like to just stick with one bullet weight if possible to hunt white tails to black bear.
thanks so much for all your replies.
Domreih
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28th, 2007 02:29 AM |
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I'm new to reloading, but not to a 270. It's hard to go wrong with the Interlock bullet...it's an excellent hunting round-performs well.
I just built some test loads for the 270 this week. 130gr SST's, Federal Match primers, Win brass, H4831SC powder. I'm going to get to the range before long, but after I've built some test loads for 7mmWSM, so I can test both in one trip.
If I can get the loads to group, I'll post the rest of the load data..
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Domreih, I am figuring on using 150 gr bullets for my 270 but mainly due to the fact that I will lose 500fps with the encore 15" barrel. Up my way, bear hunting is big and I have heard from many folks that anything that will kill whitetail is sufficient for bear including, yes, the old 30-30 or 32 win spec. Shot placement is the critical factor.
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chaltu237 . thanks for the extra reassurance. I'm now set on using hornady 150 gr sp interlock. My setup is going to be:
Hornady 150 gr SP Interlock
Winchester brass
Winchester Large Rifle Primer
RL22 powder
Going to load some and bring it out to the range and see how it goes. If my Tikka T3 Lite likes it, then I'm on it as being my all around ammo for hunting.
I will post results. Can't wait to let the first round through for the first time.
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Okay got a question. I started to reload today and need some help. I'm using Lee's single stage press and dies. The instruction that came with the setup has a diagram giving the max case length and max overall length. It also has some sample load data. So I pick one that is closest to the bullet I'm using (hornady sp inlerlock). It gives you that start grain and max grains. Now with the max grain, the minimum overall lenth is 3.320" If I seat the bullet to achieve that overall length, crimping grove is above the mouth of the case. If I seat it where the mouth of the case is right in between the crimping grove on the bullet, I get 3.252" and is below the minimum requirement. What's the deal? Do I need to have the bullet's crimping grove inside the case's mouth, because that what I normally see? Or do I go with the load data and keep the minimum overall length at 3.320"?
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| Posted: Mon Apr 30th, 2007 11:28 AM |
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I hope you are begining with the start loads. Best OAL varies from rifle to rifle, and throat to throat. .068 difference shouldn't matter in a situation like this, in terms of safety.
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Yes I will be starting at the begining load once I start to charge the case. Right now I'm just testing out the press and dies and checking case and oal. I assemble one cartridge without powder to see how it would look if I was to load to max and that's when I notice that the crimp grove of the bullet is not righ at the mouth of the case at max load. Right if I seat the bullet's crimp groves half way down the mouth,my oal is at 3.219. The chart says it should be 3.320. So I got a difference of .101. Is that going to be okay still?
Also, some says you don't need to crimp rifle cartridge the way you do a pistol cartridge. The Lee dies I got came with a crimp die, should I crimp the bullet?
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3.320 is the maximum length the cartridge can be. Seating the bullet deeper, as long as you work up to the top end loads, will be fine. Every rifle is different, some are more accurate with bullets seated almost on the lands, some moreso with .010 or so off the lands. One of the jillion and three variables that make handloading fun. See what YOUR rifle likes best.
Same with the crimp. Crimping isn't needed for a BA rifle, usually, but some rifles like it, and some don't. Experimant and see.
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Thanks Charley, Will load a few in different loads working towards the max, different bullet seating depth and well as crimp and no crimp. Probably won't get to the range till weekend though.
Again, just want to say thanks to all that contributed in helping me get started.
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My rifle is a tikka t3 lite .270 win. I played around some more and got a couple of questions. I seated the bullet to obtain 3.320" oal. I chambered the cartridge into the action and felt a slight resistance, but was able to close the bolt. I opened the chamber and of course the cartridge is ejected. I measure the cartridge and it now 3.279", I repeated it and then it measured at 3.271. I repeated a couple more times and it seems to stay at 3.271" oal. Does this mean that my rifle will not except any cartridge that is longer than 3.271"? And does this also means that at 3.271" oal, my bullet is seated at the lands?
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Probably. Sort of buying and using a length gauge, try the old fashioned way to set length. Seat the bullet in an empty case, then smoke the bullet woth a match or candle. You can also use a magic marker to blacken the bullet. Now chamber it, and eject. You should be able to see the marks from the lands on the bullet now. Try seating about .010 deeper than that for you first loads.
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Keep in mind that overall cartridge length will vary with each and every different type of bullet you use. Take for example, 130 gr. Hornady Spitzer flat base bullets will have a different seating depth than 130 Nosler partitions. That is if you are trying to seat your bullets close to the lands of your rifling. This is due to the different contours of each style of bullet design. It will also vary within the same manufacturer's different style of bullets.
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