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Book on 7X61 by South African author
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 Posted: Sat Jan 5th, 2008 04:03 PM
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Hi Everybody

I am new to the site and have been amazed at the interest in the 7X61 Sharpe and Hart calibre.

I have hunted extensively with this calibre here in South Africa.  A South African by the name of Dr Coen Bezuidenhout has written a book on Schulz and Larsen rifles which was the only manufacturer to produce this calibre as a factory production.

It is a wonderful rifle with manufacturing tolerances that are quite superb.

Shadd



 Posted: Sun Jan 6th, 2008 08:31 PM
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hi, i am also a new member, have 2 schultz & larsen in 7x61 (model 60 and 65). i am not an active hunter but am considering doing so with these firearms. i have some questions... any suggested loads for caribou and/or moose sized game? range from 100 to 250 yards? i have read that rcbs dies did not always function properly in this calibre? any experience with hornaday dies in 7x61? i am also informed that 7x61 was initially un-belted, then in the latest version (7x61 s&h super) was belted? would this belt or no-belt cartridge affect my rifles? thanks.



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tup1, I am not familiar with this cartridge but this drawing shows it with a belt. RD

http://stevespages.com/jpg/cd7x61sharpehart.jpg



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 Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 11:38 AM
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AmmoGuide shows both cartridges to be belted?



 

Guess that the operating pressures were supposed to be high, and the designer thought it should have the extra web area at the base?  Although this is disturbing, a cartridge with that much shoulder head spacing on the belt....that stinks!  This is the biggest reason I look for a cartridge without a belt.....

Do you know what year the cartridge 'grew' a belt?  I think I'd look for that one, and just load it to reasonable levels.  As the 7x57 will adequately take deer, moose, and big black bears in Maine.  Your 7x61 should have no reason not to do the same...well, unless you shoot it in the butt:wink:

 

 

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 Posted: Mon Jan 7th, 2008 11:50 AM
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tup1 schreef: hi, i am also a new member, have 2 schultz & larsen in 7x61 (model 60 and 65). i am not an active hunter but am considering doing so with these firearms. i have some questions... any suggested loads for caribou and/or moose sized game? range from 100 to 250 yards? i have read that rcbs dies did not always function properly in this calibre? any experience with hornaday dies in 7x61? i am also informed that 7x61 was initially un-belted, then in the latest version (7x61 s&h super) was belted? would this belt or no-belt cartridge affect my rifles? thanks.

First I have to state, I never heard about this caliber, but if it can be had without a belted case it would be my choice;

First of all, the trouble of not resizing the case dead on the belt does not exist, and a case fire formed in your rifle when not a belt is literally in the way, is a contibute to the accuracy of your rifle.

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 Posted: Tue Aug 25th, 2009 06:17 AM
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Hi there Shadd,

 

I am also new to the site and have recently got my hands on a 7x61 Shultz and Larzen Mod 68 BL 1 in 10" twist.

With this i have RCBS dies, 300 Sierra 160 gr heads and 200 170 gr Sako heads, PLUs 110 6x61 Super Norma case AND 3 tins of MRP !!!!

I am collecting some reloading data, can you help??

 



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Sorry 7x61 Super Cases !!


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Hello

In South Africa we are limited to Somchem powders.  I use S365 (54.5grains) behind a 160grain head.

I have had very little success with the 175grain head as the bullet tends to tumble and is hopeless.

I have also had good accuracy with a 150grain head (nosler ballistic tip) and 59grains of the same powder.

Hope this helps

Shadd



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