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ryalred
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Posted: 13 July 2008 12:18 PM |
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Ironworker, I get .42" 5 shot groups with my .257 Wby Mag Vanguard. I'm shooting the 100 grain Sierra Game King. My .257 has significantly less recoil than my 30-06, but it still packs quite a wallup. I love my Vanguard--just can't believe it shoots so well. Also, it is absolutely devastating on whitetail deer.
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223WSSM
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Posted: 15 July 2008 11:48 PM |
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Ironworker,
I have gotten several 3 shot groups in the 1/2 " range with 100gr. bullets and around 7/8" groups with 115 BT. This is with Weatherby factory ammo. All Vanguards are supposed to shoot 11/2 in. groups or better.
I know for sure it has become my favorite rifle in short order. It just seems to be the one I pick up.
Now I have to start working up some handloads.
Gary
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varmintcaller
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Posted: 24 July 2008 12:17 AM |
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I have two .257 WBYs, a vanguard 24 inch barrel and a Mark V 26 inch barrel, I dont notice the difference in velocity, cause every animal ive shot with them dropped like a ton of bricks.
Its one helluva cartridge, and if you think its devastating on deer, you ought to see what it does to coyotes.
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Ironworker
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Posted: 24 July 2008 04:24 AM |
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 Its rediculous for us to squabble over a 100 FPS in view of your comments. So with your Mark V is there a difference in accuracy? Mark Vs are not known for being good shooters.
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nitis
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Posted: 30 July 2008 01:34 AM |
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| a note on the vanguard I won a sporter in 257 wby this spring and sold it! I always wanted a 257 wby but I did not like this gun the finish on the metal wsa null and the wood was ok but had som imperfections and the trigger was crap. so If you get one count on spending money on the trigger! and pending on shat else you want maybe the mark V is worth it.
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varmintcaller
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Posted: 30 July 2008 03:23 AM |
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Maybe the Mark V's are not known to be good shooters, but the ones i have are.... I bought it from Roy Weatherby himself, When his store used to be located in South Gate California. I bought it on July 24, 1974. ( I still have the sales slip ) It was made in Germany and when i was shooting it, it would shoot minute of angle at 100 yards.
I havent shot it in years, because I Dont want to fry the chamber, thats why i have the vanguard.
The other Mark V i have is in .300 Wby Mag, My dad bought it in 1964, Its also made in Germany and i shot my Moose with it three years ago, it will also shoot minute of angle. I take it out about once a year and crank a couple of rounds through it.
Here is my Mark V .257 Wby mag.
And my .300
sorry about the editing, but my computer refuses to spell correctly!
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Ironworker
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Posted: 30 July 2008 05:57 AM |
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 Its not fair! I clicked on Weatherby web site. I really like the look of the Mark V Accumark in 257. But they want $1500 bucks ! Now Remington has a limited edition rifle in 257. They want $900 bucks. Problem is I don't like the stock. I've looked at the various Vangards.  Glad to here they shoot great. They just don't have the look I want Today just isn't my day. So here's the deal I want some one from this forum to give me a MV accumark in 257.After I receive the rifle I will begin accepting donations for a US optics scope.If these conditions are not met.I'll feel rejected.
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Ironworker
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Posted: 30 July 2008 05:58 AM |
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Its not fair! I clicked on Weatherby web site. I really like the look of the Mark V Accumark in 257. But they want $1500 bucks ! Now Remington has a limited edition rifle in 257. They want $900 bucks. Problem is I don't like the stock.I've looked at the various Vangards. Glad to here they shoot great. They just don't have the look I want Today just isn't my day. So here's the deal I want some one from this forum to give me a MV accumark in 257.After I receive the rifle I will begin accepting donations for a US optics scope.If these conditions are not met.I'll feel rejected.
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nitis
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Posted: 30 July 2008 06:22 AM |
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they have 3 offerings in the 700
the lss that is stainless with black and grey laminate
the cdlsf stainless laminate fluted
the cdlf blued laminate fluted
I like em all
I lke the look of the cdlsf the lss matches my 270wsm and the blued fluted is just nice and practical
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223WSSM
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Posted: 30 July 2008 01:49 PM |
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To me, the beauty of a rifle is how well it performs. My Vanguard required I put a Timney trigger on it to meet my accuracy expectations. Now I have a Boyd's stock on order for the looks.
This is still less expensive than the MK V.
I love my Vanguard.
Gary
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varmintcaller
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Posted: 31 July 2008 12:00 AM |
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Its true, Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, My vanguards are butt ugly, But when I squeeze the trigger, I see and hear Bang Flop! then I kiss that ugly son of a gun. I'm in love with the .257 Wby mag cartridge and I really dont care that the Vanguard is ugly.
P.S. If nobody meets your conditions, and you start to feel rejected, You can always call Dr Laura and talk to her on the radio. lol.
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Ironworker
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Posted: 31 July 2008 12:45 AM |
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I I guess for some emotional reason have to have the "Cool effect" in a rifle.  Half the enjoyment of firearm ownership to me is taking them out of the safe leaning them up against the TV and look at them while I watch TV.
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varmintcaller
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Posted: 31 July 2008 07:31 AM |
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| Nothing wrong with that!........Although when you have a Mark V you dont stand them up against the TV.....You stroke and fondle them.
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Posted: 31 July 2008 07:16 PM |
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| One other thing I forgot, I hear a lot of people say that they dont like the blueing on the vanguard. I always use Johnsons paste wax on my rifles, I apply two or three coats, help seal the pores and water just runs off of it, It also brightens up the blueing a little. Not a lot, kbut it helps,
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Ironworker
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Posted: 1 August 2008 03:16 AM |
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 Clicked on the big green. Checked out what they have in 257 mighty Weatherby MAGNUM .. They look wickedly good. I want one ........ Including scope another $2,000 bucks into a noise maker. Noap not fair!         
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Posted: 1 August 2008 09:54 PM |
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In my opinion it will be some of the best money you will spend  Just dont tell the wife you spent it  Later on, when she finds out she will be mad  but she will get over it
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Ironworker
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Posted: 2 August 2008 12:05 AM |
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Oh know its too late. Walked in the door from work. A Chair placed in middle of the room with a Hungmans noose above with note saying place my dear head in noose and jump or I'll be upset ! Guess who?
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223WSSM
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Posted: 2 August 2008 12:27 AM |
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| I too, want one of the Remington offerings. One thing for sure, it will have to have very good accuracy to outshoot my Vanguard. Gary
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