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gents....
Could anyone of you shed some light on this cal for me. We heard about it in SA when Remington launched it, but that was it.... nothing more.
Do any of you own a rifle in this cal? and how does it perform?
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The 260 is the 308 necked down to 6.5 or 264 which ever you prefer. This round is very close to the 6.5-06 and 6.5 Swede . The 260 is a very good big game round and deserves better than it gets. Here is some loading data for the round.
260 Remington (Nosler Data)
Warning! Notes: 6.5mm Cal. (.264"); use maximum loads with caution
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Velocity (FPS
100
Nosler Partition or Ballistic Tip
IMR
IMR-4064
43.0
3,290
100
Nosler Partition or Ballistic Tip
IMR
IMR-4064
41.0
3,135
100
Nosler Partition or Ballistic Tip
IMR
IMR-4064
39.0
3,005
100
Nosler Partition or Ballistic Tip
Alliant
RL-15
43.0
3,250
100
Nosler Partition or Ballistic Tip
Alliant
RL-15
41.0
3,110
100
Nosler Partition or Ballistic Tip
Alliant
RL-15
39.0
3,005
100
Nosler Partition or Ballistic Tip
Hodgdon
Varget
43.0
3,230
100
Nosler Partition or Ballistic Tip
Hodgdon
Varget
41.0
3,105
100
Nosler Partition or Ballistic Tip
Hodgdon
Varget
39.0
3,000
120
Nosler Ballistic Tip or 125 gr Nosler Partition
IMR
IMR-4064
39.0
2,898
120
Nosler Ballistic Tip or 125 gr Nosler Partition
IMR
IMR-4064
37.0
2,775
120
Nosler Ballistic Tip or 125 gr Nosler Partition
IMR
IMR-4064
35.0
2,655
120
Nosler Ballistic Tip or 125 gr Nosler Partition
IMR
IMR-4350
45.0
2,950
120
Nosler Ballistic Tip or 125 gr Nosler Partition
IMR
IMR-4350
43.0
2,845
120
Nosler Ballistic Tip or 125 gr Nosler Partition
IMR
IMR-4350
41.0
2,775
120
Nosler Ballistic Tip or 125 gr Nosler Partition
Alliant
RL-19
47.0
2,980
120
Nosler Ballistic Tip or 125 gr Nosler Partition
Alliant
RL-19
45.0
2,860
120
Nosler Ballistic Tip or 125 gr Nosler Partition
Alliant
RL-19
43.0
2,780
140
Nosler Partition
IMR
IMR-4350
43.0
2,787
140
Nosler Partition
IMR
IMR-4350
41.0
2,650
140
Nosler Partition
IMR
IMR-4350
39.0
2,528
140
Nosler Partition
Alliant
RL-19
45.0
2,797
140
Nosler Partition
Alliant
RL-19
43.0
2,676
140
Nosler Partition
Alliant
RL-19
41.0
2,552
140
Nosler Partition
Hodgdon
H-4831SC
46.0
2,774
140
Nosler Partition
Hodgdon
H-4831SC
44.0
2,655
140
Nosler Partition
Hodgdon
H-4831SC
42.0
2,565
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hi Bea
Good to hear from you...
sounds like a nice cal for a compact rifle for the mountains.....
honestly dont know why it didnt take off in SA..... how is it like in the states? is there a following?
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Some people i know are useing the 260 for whitetail and really like it. I don't have one because they don't offer it in left hand, so if i want one i will have to rebarrel. My son just built a left hand 264 Win Mag on a left hand Montana Action and it should be a good deer killer. I have two 308's and one 7mm-08 in LH and just haven't got around to the 260 as of yet. Good to hear from you to and how is everything in Port Elizabeth?
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nothing much bea....
Getting cold here and getting ready for some good hunting.... cant wait!!
Regarding the 264 Win Mag, some say its hard on barrels, is that true? I like the cal, but that always stuck in my mind.
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No harder than anyother small bore magnum. Like the 257 Wby or 7mm STW and simular type big small bored case.
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The .260 is going the way of all the other in between cartridges. I figure the ammo/gun makers throw them out there to see how they take off. Like anything else, if it doesn't capture a good percentage of the market share it's not going to be around long. The younger shooters seem to be the ones that take up on all the new gun/cartridge hype. Just like all the new WSM, WSSM , SUUM etc. I seriously doubt that most of them won't be around long.
Between 25 and 50 years ago, there were enough cartridges to do anything anyone ever wanted to do, and did it fine. However, the manufactures could not make a profit unless they found some new product to offer. Just look at the magnum craze, light and super fast . It only stands to reason that a whole new breed of bullets would have to be developed to use in them.
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Hey Grey.Glad to see you.I forget that your hot and cold months are opposite of us.I have never even handled a rifle chambered in 260 Rem.Not that I wouldn`t shoot one but wih owning a 270,25-06 and a 308, I never felt the need for one.
Saddlesore I agree with you.The 300 Win Mag is an old round and can do about anything needed on this continent.But every manufacturer seems to think new ideas will sell rifles.I`ll keep my 300 Win Mag and watch all these 300 short mag rounds either earn acceptance or go the route of tits on a boar hog....
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I think the 260 would be a great cartridge.
The problem I have with it is a scarceity of short actions I like. IF I was to somehow to come across one of the new model 70 classic compact actions a .260 would be a tempting choice. I personaly prefer a Claw (mauser type) extractor and while you could certainly put a 260 into a model 70 standard length action or a mauser, you would be wasting a good deal of magazine length.
I can't say I never do this but but it does bother me a little. So if I were contemplating a .264 bore for a mauser I think I would build a .6.5 X 284 or a 6.5 ,06 ack imp, if the mauser box length was enough and they usually are.
But the fact is a 260 should be a great round for medium game, varmints, targets, and have very little recoil. If you were to find a Remington mountain rifle I know its a push feed in 260, it would likley be a great all around rifle ! ..tj3006
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For a Mauser action my personal preference would be the 6.5x55 Swede or its Ackley version the 6.5x55 BJAI. That said, sure nothing wrong with the 6.5x257 or the Ackley version, the 260 AAR. For the 6.5-06 or the 6.5-06AI, a long action like the Remington 700 or the 03 Springfield would be just the ticket.
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Fella's;
I'm happy to say that developments in modern powders & primers have greatly extended barrel life in cartridges such as the .264 Winchester magnum, the .220 Swift, and Roy's rockets. In any case, I certainly wouldn't flinch away from a .264 for that reason.
As for the .260, I'm in the ho-hum camp. I'm like Bea175, left out in the cold by my favorite 6.5, the Swede. Not too many LHB Swede's running around. At one point I'd considered buying a couple of Ruger model 77's, a right hand Swede & a left hand .270, swap the barrels & sell off the .270. But, have never gotten around to it & I'm not sure Ruger catalogues the Swede anymore.
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I'm a fan of short action rifles so a 260 might make a good choice as a Blacktail rifle. Just need to find one I like. I haven't seen any rifles in that caliber in my area. My next and probable option would be a 7-08. Decisions, decisions.
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I've got a little kimber in 260 thats one of the nicest deer/antelope type guns you can imagine. I think the problem with the whole thing is called mangum mania
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Maybe so butch on that magnum mania.Not me though,I have fallen in love with the 25-06Remington no .257 magnum in my future for a long,long,long while.As soon as my 25-06 Ackley is finished I`ll call that magnum enough for me to go along with my Ruger is standard 25-06 Rem.
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TJ,
"The problem I have with it is a scarceity of short actions I like. IF I was to somehow to come across one of the new model 70 classic compact actions a .260 would be a tempting choice. I personaly prefer a Claw (mauser type) extractor and while you could certainly put a 260 into a model 70 standard length action or a mauser, you would be wasting a good deal of magazine length. "
I've had the Kimber 84 in 260 about a year. If you like short actions made specifically for the 308/243/22-250 length shell You would love the Kimber 84. It is a true scaled down action with small diameter bolt. Claw extractor and m7 wing style safety. weight is about 5 1/2 #. Fully adjustable trigger, pillar bedded with floating barrel. What more could you ask for? Made in USA too.
My 260 shoots sub MOA with the Hornady 129 SST.
I got the rifle as a walk around deer rifle, it has killed 3 bucks. None went more than a few feet. I'm pleased with the rifle and the 260 Remington. The 260 is a fine shooting cartridge, a big change from my magnums. It will probably replaced my 338 and my 30-40 ruger as my go to deer guns.
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it is cold and crappy weekend here in Vermont so I am reading older post and came across this one last edited 12-31-05 on the 260 Remington I was looking for a clip fed bolt action for ease in treestands. I came across a 700 rem with a clip that handeled like a dream already top with a 2-7 scope. It happened to be chambered in 260 rem the love affair started and has not ended. It has been a dream to handload for currently i am shooting 120 sierra s with 45 grains of IMR 4350 into half inch groups at 100 yards. I used to kill a deer at 200 yards 1 shot kill. I believe the reason for it not being sucessful is too cloes to 7 08. Anything a 260 can do a 7 08 can do. Bullet selection is better fo the 7mm or 284.
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Actually, the .260 is alive and well. Go to any type of high power rifle tournament such as NMC, F-Class, long range and Silhouette and you'll see quite a few competitors using it. Usually more than any other caliber. There are several reasons for this, other than it being a basically accurate cartridge: there are several high quality match grade bullets in a wide range of weights. These bullets have a high BC that yields a flat trajectory and wind drift resistance that equils or betters that of heavier bullets or the need for high velocity. Recoil is mild and barrel wear much better than higher velocity cartridges. All of which have combined to make the .260 a favorite in long range accuracy circles, and has accounted for it winning National Championships and setting new records. These qualities also make is an excelent caliber for medium game, especially for recoil shy hunters. Unlike other calibers that have become forgotten in recent years the .260 has steadily gained popularity, with an increasing number of rifles available and a loyal cult following. The biggest problem with the .260 is the lack of really high quality factory ammo. Thus best loads are always handloaded ammo. Many .260 shooters, especially target shooters such as myself make high quality .260 brass by simply necking up Lapua .243 cases. Which is easily done with a neck expanding die such as sold by Sinclair, K&M, etc.
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I am a great fan of the 6.5 bullet. I have an all original M96 and a sporterized one and both shoot like a dream.
But, like many have said , it is hard to find a modern rifle now in the 6.5 Swede.
And also being small stature and short armed, I prefer smaller , more compact rifles. That being said and the fact that I suffer from moderate Rheumatoid Arthritis , recoil is a REAL factor. It is no fun to shoot when each shot feels like someone is hitting you in the shoulder with a 3 lb. hammer. I am always looking at reduced loads and light recoil cals.
Thus, I shy away from all the higher recoil calibers. I have never shot a 260 REM, but I know several that have them and all swear by them. I would think recoil is OK also.
I do like shooting my Marlin XL7 25-06 and have no problem with that recoil at this point.
Told the wife the other day.....I am going to set my sights on a 260 in the future....just not sure when....she lost her Job nearly a year ago when her shop closed and hasn't found anything since...so it puts the new toys on hold for a bit.
But I will watch this thread in the hopes that those that do shoot the 260 Rem, tell of their likes and dislikes.
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Greysmoke,
The below photo is from my custom built Rem 700 with Lothar Walther SS match barrel, top, and the second is from my Medisha upper, built by Scott Medisha for my AR-10T, bottom. Both groups were shot with the 120 Sierra MK over H-414 and both guns run at 3,200 + fps.
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This is the AR-10T with same load the AR has a Kreiger barrel. Attachment: 269 ar .130.jpg (Downloaded 129 times)
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