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 Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:31 PM
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Land of the Free

Because of the Brave

Jerry



 Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 02:43 PM
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I'll second that one.   There are more uf us than they think, if it comes down to it.   as far as mexico, what they need is their own second amendment right to help the overwhelmed military and police in their neighborhoods..  As an American, I am bound by our constitution, not the world courts!!!! Our government would do well to remember that.



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 Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 04:33 PM
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What Mexico needs is the down what we do with computers, do a hard cold boot and start over again. Or an IPL.

Jerry



 Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 07:20 PM
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I for one don't care what treaty they sign, their actions by signing an agreement with other countries don't mean squat, the supreme court has already ruled in our favor in the Heller case.

What they don't seem to get they can pass anything they want, but enforcing it is another.

How many of your county sherriffs are really gonna come looking for you?

We outnumber the feds 1000 to 1, they won't show up either. They are counting on all of us being sheep, like they are, but we are not .

Fear not people, I still believe the power is still in our hands, we just need to be as politically active as the ones that are trying to take our guns.

 



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we must all hang tough together on any action or reaction......        i WILL not let my constitutional rights be taken from me.............  i'm thinking about joining the NRA again but i am disappointed in that organization in not protecting gun rights from a long time ago.....     it seems like i've said before soros and the socialists have more polititicians in their pockets than the NRA can buy.................... 

 

  LIFE IS SHORT.......    THE 2ND AMENDMENT PROTECTS US ALL..............



 Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 02:19 AM
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according to that dumb witch...I`m being nice:wink:you all are candidates for being domestic terrorists...
hmm ,guess I am too.
I will not give mine up,I served this nation...I won`t say on an open forum..
but coming for Americans stuff on this ground is a bad idea.
Very damned bad..I can`t beleive the shit for brains that run this country by election can`t see what these agendas will lead to.
That horseshit in Waco,Ruby ridge,etc..an all out assault on ownership.My goodness can no one see the end resuult of that?????:confused:



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umm there is no sense in that amigo ...but i doubt not that there are those out there with hearts so black and dreams so vile ......i stand for america !within our ranks is the backbone and the heart of this once great nation ,we the people are being pushed ,and on purpose ,they wish to incite ,they wish to misinform ,subvert and split our country until the jackals who all call for help when they are messing up their own countries are stalking us into a corner wishing to devour the hand that saved them so many times ....they do it for the fleeting moment of false power it gives them yet failing to realize that they are destroying chipping away at the very rock they are standing on chip chip chipping away until it collapses ........ my friends even my foes fall not to their plans the loss will be irrecoverable ,for more of the results of the donkey's at work ....perhaps most important is the gauge of the comments -i give u janet wushername at her finest
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/23/napolitano-draws-resignation-calls-gaffes-veterans-canada/

edit for me fat fingers again

TG as i said there is no sense in their plans,sure they have umm vivid lil fantasies but they forget that it is much much easier to let the cat out of the bag than put it back in .....

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Such a treaty would be unconstitutional. Check out Marbury vs. Madison: 5 US 137 (1803). This is a SCOTUS ruling. 

http://freedom-school.com/acceptance/constitutional-law-by-carl-miller.pdf

Bottom line, all laws enacted after the ratification of the Constitution, even treaties (which have the force and effect of law), must comport with the Consititution. Further, citizens have no duty to obey an unconstitutional law (including a treaty), and they need not wait for a SCOTUS ruling on that law before they disobey it.

 



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Welcome to Canada boys!  We have been subjected to the BS for years.  Once we are all unarmed they can do as they please. 



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The language is clear: if this treaty passes the Senate (a big IF I hope) the President will have the power to make any rules & penalties he sees fits with regard to its implementation WITHOUT congressional oversight. It will be his ball-game. (His and Rahm Emanuel, that is.)

The treaty also cuts out our court system. Of course, you could always TRY to get a case heard in SOCUS. But who will be sitting on SOCUS by the time that happens?



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You may not want to read the following:

http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/us_constitution/gun_control/news.php?q=1237833478

BTW the gun store down the way has noticed that they can't get reloading supplies, many common ammunitions, and guns are back ordered forever.

Jerry

 



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Interesting info about that fourwinds site here. Also about the "Kissinger hoax."

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2036305

Sometimes a little research is in order.



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Thanks for posting that. I have been out working in the fields and do not have a lot of time, next I need to change the thermostat on JD. That before dinner.

Jerry



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now ya know why they weren't pushing harder for the assault weapons ban ( btw ? if i assault u with a wet noodle will they ban that next ? ) as i have often stated there was more to the shortages than we know,believed or fathomed-a belief i still hold but it's slowly becoming clearer.....



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Fryboy,

I don't want to seem like I'm saying there is "no risk"— cause that's far from true!— but you should take everything on that fourwinds site with a grain of salt the size of a bowling ball.

And YES! Assault noodles have to go! No civilized country would allow citizens to own assault noodles. They should only be available to the police and military.



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DK amigo mio ...every thing in life needs a grain of salt ,however -there are things in life that there jest aint a big enough grain of salt ( nor tequila on the side)will make taste better..or go down smoother,i dont just blindly follow something or some one ,everything on the web is hearsay,when certain things fallout of order it's prudent to look at all possible angles yes that means all six sides of a two way argument, fact is i know too many facts ,what i see personally counts for alot of it ,i cant explain the pressure i feel in my society ,in my friends and even people i dont know ,the biggest fear # 1 say it how u want -money,stability,economy,it all equals the same thing ,should i sell what i have left while a buck is still worth a candy bar ?( and then buy that candy bar and then freeze it?)i mean after all why wait until like nazi germany ,the American Confederacy ,and countless other's "printed money" became worth less than the paper they were printed upon ...on articles like the aforementioned and many others i also read most the comments,think of it as a rectal thermometer if u will,i'm a lil guy ,u mite say i have a ground up view on america ,i dont just read our so called american reports on our country but i read outsiders views as well,i'm an american,my country mite shame me at a future time ,but i'll still be a american and i as an american fear for america and free citizens of all countries....may truth,justice and freedom rein !the truth of the matter the war isnt our drain on components we all know this they have been geared up for that for years ,the grab buying affects alot of it but there's more too it than that,i'm not denying that ammo component factories are kicking stuff out but what are they loadin and where is it going ? mexico to fight both sides ? and us too ? stockpiled in government bunkers ? i've seen adds for primers for $100 and folks was buyin'em[sigh]with no prior steps in place to umm set up home reloaders(so called illict ammo manufactor's) licenses how long do u think u'd have to wait to get one ? oh wait ur a right wing extremist sorry sir we cant help u ,some people perceive an opportunity to make great sums of money from it anything especially ammo is a investment stronger than any stock until they outlaw and confiscate it that is , i used to tell myself that .22 lr was going to be the "standard wampum" of the future, i hope i'm never right on that btw ! the government is more than out of money , even china is now scared to buy much more in the way of loans on the american dollar (me thinks not too many people will like the critter barack hussien obama will pull out of his hat-or other assorted places)if they can distract ya enough with all the lil stuff u just mite not see the major until it's too late yet all the above is but a small part of the picture and parts keep addin up
this was a month ago
http://www.policelink.com/news/articles/101124-private-gun-confiscation-pt-2
one fact i do know ? the powers that be ATM do have a very quiet and hidden anti gun agenda and if america survives this i believe u will see more violations of the constitution and bill of rights under this administration than any in history :sad:



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We have no disagreement.

Dang! You mean we cain't argue, wrangle, and wressle?

Guess not.



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Assault Noodles were banned under the biological warfare conventions, I think it was in the 1972 UN conventions.

Jerry



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i hope some one informed them wet noodles not to assault anything :shameon:



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So were the Founding Fathers. If they can get through a shaped charged front door they can have them.  Commie fag junkies.  I obey the Constitution only.



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