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I believe in Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. So long as I don't force my views or my way of life on some one else (and Vice Versa), there should never be a problem.
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The new secretary of homeland security has already stated that we are more dangerous to the countries security than Muslim terrorists. When striking miners refused to leave their tent city, the Colorado national guard (equivalent )killed as many of them as they could. even burning women and children to death after they had machine gunned as many as they could. When WWI veterans demonstrated in Washington dc they were shot. many died. now, we are being labeled as terrorists by our own government officials. Many think our police and soldiers won't shoot their own people, but history proves different. In the past century 55 million citizens around the world have been murdered by their own governments, and our own government is already monitoring this web-site and others like it. I'm afraid that our own government is already planning to disarm, imprison, or kill us. Hopefully if we all contact our congressmen we can stop this, but I'm afraid not. possibly bad times ahead. Last edited on Thu Apr 30th, 2009 12:24 AM by swampshooter
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Which is why we DON'T allow ourselves to be disarmed. If THEY come for our guns, they will be declaring war on US. They start the dance - and BY GOD, we will finish it.
Good men can only be pushed so far. They need to take the lesson of 1776. 
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No, we will not become criminals . We will have been attacked by domestice enemies, and have every right to defend ourselves. We are on the high ground here always remember that. If push comes to shove, We know what to do. They will be in violation of the Second Amendment and it will be time to rid them once and for all.
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canadians didn't lose their rights the government just spent millions of dollars on a gun registry that didn't work most of the people i know only registered one gun and left the rest unregistered,my only guns that are registered are prohibited and restricted none of my long guns are.now they scraped the registry,they would have been better to spend that money on homeless people or a cure for cancer
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Thats kinda what I was thinking. As someone in another forum once said, "if it is time to burry them, then it is time to dig them up."
As far as the international criminal thing goes.....why start small??????
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Ahhhh, Fellah's. Not to make too big of a point about this but....
NOVEMBER, 2010 !!!!!!!!
Throw the Dem/SOCIALISTS out of power!!!!
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To be followed by Nov. 2012 - Throw the damned marxist Kenyan out on his big ears. And take a close account of the Whitehouse furniture and silverware - anything missing, the outgoing personages will buy new ones at current prices to replace! That includes antiques - listening, Michelle........?
Don't try to pull a "Clinton" on us!
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Take all the furniture and silverware in 2012.I will be happy!!!
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The only criminals I see is our federal government as it has evolved today. When the second amendment was drafted, it had many meanings and responsibilities to the citizens of the newly emerging United States. And that is to include the Ninth and Tenth amendments to insure that they would remain unchanged and unchallenged.
I quote James Madison in the radifacation of the Second Amendment:
"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."
From Thomas Jefferson:
What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787.
A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1785.
The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves in all cases to which they think themselves competent..., or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; that they are entitled to freedom of person, freedom of religion, freedom of property, and freedom of the press." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.
This was the mindset of our founding fathers on gun control back then, what's the problem today??? Supreme Court rulings?? For WHAT??? They need a HISTORY LESSON.
I swore an oath to defend and uphold the CONSTITUTION & BILL of RIGHTS not once but three times. Before I did, I had a class in HIGH SCHOOL that made me understand and appreciate how the CONSTITUTION was composed and the reasoning behind the thoughts and causes.( I got a C+ but I remember).
Our lawmakers must have slept through those classes...I give them an F for FAILURE.
Do your reloading, gun repair and purchases and know that if our forefathers would have had their way, an automatic rifle in every home and ammo availble at every fire station.
Just my 2 cents. Thanks for letting me vent.
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"1984 is running a little late, but it will get here soon enough."
Well, 1984 is running late only because we had not elected THIS BATCH of political masters before 2008 (it's not the timing but the thir goals that count tho).
But, a very small majority of "we" were opposed to "them", including all of the illegal ACORN/Hispanics voters, the absentee duplicate voters plus all of the risen dead voters "changed" that last year.
And we are only 8 months into the New World Order under the rule of "The ONE" and his 38 Czars + Pelosi/Reed and company. Meaning the new Federal Dominated States of America is in a heap of trouble!
"I believe in Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. So long as I don't force my views or my way of life on some one else (and Vice Versa), there should never be a problem."
But, there is a problem.
THEY have used those personal liberties and tolerances we allowed THEM to gain virtually total control of our government. THEY have no intentions of continueing to allow us to live as free men who enjoy our liberties or the benefits of OUR labors. The POWER of the government comes from police guns and THEY will surely enact ever constricting laws that the police will have to enforce against us.
You did hear BO's TV announcement that he wants to intitate an internal "civilian secutiry force" as large and well funded as the military, didn't you? I did and haven't forgotten it even tho our "news" Media largely ignored it. What would be their purpose I wondered, who would he suggest using that vast new "security" power against? Certainly not illegal immigrants, they vote Democrat. Surely not radical Islamics (are there any other kind?), that wouldn't be politically correct. Against the Canadians perhaps...naw! Or would it more likely be "conservatives" and "Christians" and gun owners, those who it is now PC to persecute and who resist his plans for Change in America?
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Chairman Mao once said, "Political power comes from the barrel of a gun."
Nikita Kruschev said, "There is no need for Russia to attack the United States. It will be totally communist in 20 years.." Guess his timing was off, but it's a coming. He also said, "There re more comminsits teaching in American schools today than in all of Mother Russia."
How true. I just read a report where high school kids took a civics test and only 2.8 passed. Most could not even answer the question, "Who was out first President? And you wonder how in the hell this country has gotten so screwed up? Gimmee a break!
I belive under the Constitution only the Senate can ratify a treaty. These are the ones we have to convince that it is in their best interests to not ratify that treaty.
Just a recent bit of recent history if I may? Remember when Russia tried to take over Afghanistan? That was their Viet Nam if you recall. Check out what the Partisans were doing to harass the Germans in WW2. Find a book called, "An American Guerilla in the Philippines" and see how they made life miserable for the Japanese.
Getting back to the Afghans, they are fierce fighters and they stick to their guns and religion, much more so appaently than we do.   The Russian would never have whipped them although withour help they won their battle a lot sooner. I sometims wonder if we'll have that same type of intestinal fortitude, should that awful time arise?
The following is something to contemplate. I have posted this before and belive it was writter by Karl Marx. See how closely it follows the democratic party platform. Another interesting fact. The Americam Communist Party did not run a candidate in the last election. They felt the Democrats believed as they do and were told to vote Democrat. Anyway, the following is something i researched and post on several sites and while the original source denied it as an urban legend, methinks they were closer to the truth than they cared to admit.
This took me a couple of hours to find. It is from the August, 1946 issue of the AMERICAN RIFLEMAN. I must also be honest that in a later issue, which I'm not going to try and find, they later withdraw their comments and consider it an urban legend. However, considering the current state of affairs in this country, methinks an urban legend it ain't. My comments are in parentheses.
RULES FOR REVOLUTUTION
A. Corrupt the young. Get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial, destroy their ruggedness.
(No prayer in schools. Scantily dressed rock stars such as Britney Spears. Glorified drug use.)
B. Get control of all means of publicity and thereby:
1. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books and plays, and other trivialities.
(The talking heads on the alphabet stations constantly bashing the President. The obsession with football, baseball, basketball to the point of prempting regular programming. [Monday night football, etc.])
2. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.
(How about hyphenated Americans, IE, Native-Americans, African-Americans, ad nausem?)
3. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding these latter up to ridicule, obloquoy, and comtempt.
(The massive Bush-bashing by all the forms of Media, IE, radio, TV, and the newspapers.)
4.Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and as ruthlessly as possible.
(Ain't nobody ever told them we're a Republic, and not a democracy?)
5. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy it's credit, produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.
(Look at what the talking heads on the boob tube keep saying about the deficit. Nuff said?)
6. Foment unnecessary strikes in vital industries, encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of the government toward such disorders.
(Fortunately, there are steps the government can take to slow down or stop strikes. Civil unrest like black neighborhoods rioting are another matter. Generally, those type riots are fomented by a small cadre of of "$h!t disturbers who leave once they've got their riot started.. It is too bad the government doesn't go after those people and properly incarcerate them.)
7. By specious arguments cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues: honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.
(Hmm! How about the supposed separation of church and state? Apparently, our courts must feel that God is a four letter word with a missing letter. Honesty? Does Ken Lay and Enron ring a bell? Sobriety? There sure is a strong movement to legalize, or at least decriminalize pot. Continence I had to look up in the dictionary, but basically, it means moderation, especially in matters of sexuality. Faith in the pledged word? Remember the old saying, "A man is only as good as his word?" Ruggedness? Had to think about that one. Notice all the play in the media where all out kids are now too obese. Sounds like their being fattened up for the kill. figuratively speaking.)
C. CAUSE THE REGISTRATION OF ALL FIREARMS ON SOME PRETEXT, WITH A VIEW TO CONFISCATING THEM AND LEAVING THE POPULACE HELPLESS.
(This one is totally self explanatory.)
(The emphasis is as copied from the article which the NRA got from the New World News, February 1946.)
Read and study those "Rules for Revolution carefully and compare them with the Democrat party platform and with what our current society is today.
As I stated earlier, the NRA later said that those rules were not valid and not for real. If that was the case, why does it mirror our society today? I did not copy the entire article, it's too long and as a two fingered typist with blind fingers, well you get my point. FWIW, those rules were discovered in Dusseldorf, Germany in 1919, according to the article.
Ain't it strange what an old geezer can dig up?
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"Ain't it strange what an old geezer can dig up?"
Paul, you did good. But the real "strange" thing is that the proposed public watchdogs, the Main Stream Media, AKA, the Propoganda Wing of the Democrat Party, refuses to publish such things.
Notice that the MSM attacks and slanders conservatives such as Palin, Gingrich, etc, but remain silent as possible about liberal outrages - ACORN for instance! And they do the same with conservative media voices such as Glenn Beck, Shaun Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Tea Party goers, etc., but I've NEVER seen them point out any actual "untrue" thing they have said! They jsut whine that it shouldn't have been mentioned since it wasn't in the NYT! So, it's ALL "liberal" attacks against the speaker, not the truth of what they say.
The SC congressman had to apoligise for the audacity of saying "Lier" to BO. But I rememder the slanders by Dems about Bush and actual Booing in a couple of State of the Union addresses but never a hint of suggestion that such behavior was beneath the honorable body at that time. What was good then is now bad? So, what's changed? It's BO, and that's all! And the idiots actually think none of us remember their boorish behavior...they hold us in total contempt!
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bobo's runaway bus to the nether regions is slowing lately - even his own Party is starting to have second thoughts on some of his ideas. The Healthcare debacle he sought to shakle us with is being looked at much closer than the Porkulus Bill. He tried to pull the old "It's an emergency, we need it NOW!" routine - ain't gonna fly this time, barry. Folks want to know what they are signing off on now days.
We haven't put the brakes on his bus yet, but the road is getting rougher. he knows he MUST get his crap passed before the 2010 midterm elections - when he loses his Party's "mandate" and majority in Congress. When the pendulum swings his 'happytime' comes to an end. Just hope we can get some of his egregious nonsense reversed.
His Party will try some increased guncontrol once the 2010 elections shake out the dross, and they see who is left. Then with no seats in jepardy anymore, they will get bolder. IF we have the majority, we can stop that nonsense too.
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on the reversals after he's gone ...he set a precedent doing that to bush's stuff so his should have no problem getting reversed the moment he leaves office ( however and whenever that maybe )his reversals leave nothing sacred,and we can call it what we want but that ol wheel goes around comes around etc
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Busted wrote:
"Ain't it strange what an old geezer can dig up?"
The SC congressman had to apoligise for the audacity of saying "Lier" to BO.
umm he didnt apologize for calling him a liar ..he apologized for his outburst or interruption at least that's the way i seen it .......
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From what I heard and read, he made his apology to barry, who accepted it. The Libtards have their panties in a wad because he would NOT kowtow to them and apologise publicly on the Senate floor to THEM. He has more moxy than that. We need more folks in Office like him. 
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THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE . . . .
Get involved. Recruit new shooters to the sport. Help shooters get the most enjoyment from the shooting sports, so they'll be motivated to join the fight against anti-gun legislation. Promote pro-gun legislators and consider donating some time and money. If we support the NRA, the Second Amendment Foundation and others, we just might reverse Obama's agenda.
Don't just complain about this situation. We're not a bunch of potted plants! Our forefathers designed our Constitution to help us restrain our own government. Protect our freedom by educating people about the importance of our Constitution. It's good to sound the alarm when needed, but don't just sit around and complain about it. Be honest . . . . how many NRA members have YOU recruited lately?
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"THERE IS AN ALTERNATIVE . . . . "
Yes there is. get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US and while they're on the way out, make them pay all those unpaid parking tickets with a large interest rate aded. "F" the UN.
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Paul B .......
You're right. The UN is the single biggest threat to the sovereignty of the United States. Most UN treaties are designed to invalidate our Constitution and weaken our country. Any American that accepts treaties with the UN is a traitor. We should make this clear to more of our fellow Americans. Most shooters seem to already have a good handle on understanding the UN.
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