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I would like to hear from anyone who has used the 9.3x62mm on a brown bear or any other dangerous game and if it gave satisfactory results.
Also, any kind of cartridge details whether handloaded ( bullet make and weight, powder brand and charge) or factory. Thanks.
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31st, 2009 02:01 AM |
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Is this the rimmed or rimless cartridge?
Here is what little data I have:
For the rimmed cartridge, 200 grain cast bullet, sized to .366 to .368 Powder 2400, load 21 grains gives you an estimated velocity of 1,700 fps, the energy is 1283 pounds
The load I have for the rimless cartridge is 250 grain cast bullet, sized to .366 to .368, IMR 4064, load is 56 grains, velocity is 2,400 fps, the energy is 3196 pounds.
Not sure if this will do the trick, but bear and buffalo have been taken with a 45-70 CBs for a long time.
All disclaimers apply, make sure this rifle is in shoot able condition, have it inspected by a competent gunsmith.
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The 9.3x62 has a very long history in Africa shooting dangerous game. It was the preferred cartridge of the non-professional African hunters, IE: farmers, etc. who undoubtedly killed more game than the pro's. It's performance exceeds the 35 Whelen, which itself is a very good bear and moose cartridge. Taylor speaks highly of the 9.3x62 in his book about African cartridges. I've used the 35 Whelen quite a bit, and also the .338 and .375, but never the 9.3x62. Until just recently 9.3 bullets were very hard to come by in the U.S.I wish I had an excuse to buy one, but my big game hunting days are over, so I'll regretfully have to pass. If you get one please post your experiences with it, many of us here will be very interested.
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Norma's factory ballistics show
232 gr. 2,635fps 3,540 ft/lbs.
286 gr. 2,360fps 3,544 ft/lbs.
Reloading info is probably readily available on the internet, if you buy this rifle and have trouble locating loading data PM me and I can send it to you.
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RWS loads a 293gr bullet @ 2350fps. The cartridge was a favorite of German (and other) settlers in Africa early last century and hunters up to now. 
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patriot7 wrote: I would like to hear from anyone who has used the 9.3x62mm on a brown bear or any other dangerous game and if it gave satisfactory results.
Also, any kind of cartridge details whether handloaded ( bullet make and weight, powder brand and charge) or factory. Thanks.
patroit,
Here's a link to a post on our sister site, BSBz, that will help.
http://www.baitshopboyz.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=17740&PN=1&get=last#123269
My 9,3x62 like a 286 NPT over IMR-4320.
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patriot7 wrote: I would like to hear from anyone who has used the 9.3x62mm on a brown bear or any other dangerous game and if it gave satisfactory results.
Also, any kind of cartridge details whether handloaded ( bullet make and weight, powder brand and charge) or factory. Thanks.
I own(ed) several 9.3x74R's, and it uses the SAME bullet at the SAME ballistics that the 9.3x62 does.
I've spent a huge amount of time in my life hunting brown bears, and your 9.3x62 will do a great job on big bears, BUT, i highly reccomend you use the 286 NP (nosler partition) for that purpose.
There are a couple other well constructed bullets that will do the job too, but the NP's are easiest to get, and have the advantage of being a better "all around" bullet because of the softer nose from the partition foreward.
Stay with the heavier bullets!
DM
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DM wrote: patriot7 wrote: I would like to hear from anyone who has used the 9.3x62mm on a brown bear or any other dangerous game and if it gave satisfactory results.
Also, any kind of cartridge details whether handloaded ( bullet make and weight, powder brand and charge) or factory. Thanks.
I own(ed) several 9.3x74R's, and it uses the SAME bullet at the SAME ballistics that the 9.3x62 does.
I've spent a huge amount of time in my life hunting brown bears, and your 9.3x62 will do a great job on big bears, BUT, i highly reccomend you use the 286 NP (nosler partition) for that purpose.
There are a couple other well constructed bullets that will do the job too, but the NP's are easiest to get, and have the advantage of being a better "all around" bullet because of the softer nose from the partition foreward.
Stay with the heavier bullets!
DM
I appreciate your response as I'm not getting too much feedback on this. Can you tell me how many brown bears you have killed with this round and the number of rounds it took to put them down for good? Thanks.
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patriot7 wrote: DM wrote: patriot7 wrote: I would like to hear from anyone who has used the 9.3x62mm on a brown bear or any other dangerous game and if it gave satisfactory results.
Also, any kind of cartridge details whether handloaded ( bullet make and weight, powder brand and charge) or factory. Thanks.
I own(ed) several 9.3x74R's, and it uses the SAME bullet at the SAME ballistics that the 9.3x62 does.
I've spent a huge amount of time in my life hunting brown bears, and your 9.3x62 will do a great job on big bears, BUT, i highly reccomend you use the 286 NP (nosler partition) for that purpose.
There are a couple other well constructed bullets that will do the job too, but the NP's are easiest to get, and have the advantage of being a better "all around" bullet because of the softer nose from the partition foreward.
Stay with the heavier bullets!
DM
I appreciate your response as I'm not getting too much feedback on this. Can you tell me how many brown bears you have killed with this round and the number of rounds it took to put them down for good? Thanks.
I personally didn't kill any brown bears with this cartridge, as for many years my "go to DG rifle" was chambered for .338-06, but that's another story. (yes i've harvested several brown bears and been in on many more kills)
I use to swage 9.3 cup/core and bonded core bullets, and mfg./sell new ammo and reloads using my bullets, including 9.3x74R. My customers used my bullets and ammo to take all kinds of big game, including moose and brown bears on down. From my bullet testing of all of the above, and feed back from my friends and customers there's no doubt that they will do the job.
Actually, after a point, it's really not about what caliber/cartridge you use to do the job, as long as that combo will give enough penetration with an expanding bullet, it WILL get the job done. I'm absolutely certain the 9.3/286NP will, and would use one without hesitation.
Putting down a big bear isn't about how many rounds it takes, one bullet of reasonable diameter in the "right" place is all it takes. And for me, the right place is a high shoulder shot with a bullet that expands well, but still drives in deep. (i prefer an exit hole) This is why i prefer NP's...
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DM wrote: patriot7 wrote: DM wrote: patriot7 wrote: I would like to hear from anyone who has used the 9.3x62mm on a brown bear or any other dangerous game and if it gave satisfactory results.
Also, any kind of cartridge details whether handloaded ( bullet make and weight, powder brand and charge) or factory. Thanks.
I own(ed) several 9.3x74R's, and it uses the SAME bullet at the SAME ballistics that the 9.3x62 does.
I've spent a huge amount of time in my life hunting brown bears, and your 9.3x62 will do a great job on big bears, BUT, i highly reccomend you use the 286 NP (nosler partition) for that purpose.
There are a couple other well constructed bullets that will do the job too, but the NP's are easiest to get, and have the advantage of being a better "all around" bullet because of the softer nose from the partition foreward.
Stay with the heavier bullets!
DM
I appreciate your response as I'm not getting too much feedback on this. Can you tell me how many brown bears you have killed with this round and the number of rounds it took to put them down for good? Thanks.
I personally didn't kill any brown bears with this cartridge, as for many years my "go to DG rifle" was chambered for .338-06, but that's another story. (yes i've harvested several brown bears and been in on many more kills)
I use to swage 9.3 cup/core and bonded core bullets, and mfg./sell new ammo and reloads using my bullets, including 9.3x74R. My customers used my bullets and ammo to take all kinds of big game, including moose and brown bears on down. From my bullet testing of all of the above, and feed back from my friends and customers there's no doubt that they will do the job.
Actually, after a point, it's really not about what caliber/cartridge you use to do the job, as long as that combo will give enough penetration with an expanding bullet, it WILL get the job done. I'm absolutely certain the 9.3/286NP will, and would use one without hesitation.
Putting down a big bear isn't about how many rounds it takes, one bullet of reasonable diameter in the "right" place is all it takes. And for me, the right place is a high shoulder shot with a bullet that expands well, but still drives in deep. (i prefer an exit hole) This is why i prefer NP's...
DM
Thanks again for responding. That was some very good information. I think this might be the caliber for me. I was originally thinking of a 458 Lott or a 416 Remington but I have never shot either and I'm not sure how well I could should either because of the recoil. The 9.3 sounds like a more managable round to shoot in addition to easier follow up shots with the added benefit of the 5+1 rifle capacity. Definatley the heavier bullet for brown bear. The ballistics (BC, SD) are quite impressive in all the various weight bullets for this cartridge. Thanks again.
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