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buffybr
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Posted: 10 December 2007 06:46 PM |
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It's snowing hard here today, and what better way to spend a winter day than stoking the fire and reading hunting stories. I saw this post, and since "I've been there, done that" I'd like to add my $0.02.
I made my Muskox hunt in September, 2004 as part of a combination Caribou/Muskox hunt in Canada's Northwest Territories. The hunt was strictly spot and stalk, and there was little difference in the actual hunting of the Caribou or the Muskox. All the animals were spotted at some distance, stalked to within 50-100yds and shot. Not much different than deer or elk hunting here in the states. I came home with some great memories, some beautiful and unusual trophies, and a cooler full of delicious Caribou and Muskox meat.
I don't hunt from a treestand or permanent blind or over bait or food like is also shown on many outdoor hunting shows, but where legal, this is done by thousands of hunters every year. I don't see alot of hunting skill difference between this type of hunting and the Muskox hunt that was described in that hunting show.
To each his own, we're all hunters.
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LilMag
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Posted: 16 December 2007 05:36 PM |
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Two Beards, I watched a TV show last month and this so called bow hunter, shoots a big bull bison at what looked like at least 60 yards with his compound bow. The animal runs off and they follow, only to repeat the same shot at 50 yards. Once again the bull trots off over the hill.
I thought to myself, why didn't the "fool" get closer to start with before his released the arrow? Now the third shot is a broadside shot at close to 40 yards, it looked a bit high to me but what do I know.....I never made it to TV or Hollywood!
The bison finally ends up in a bit of a very small box canyon, so the guy finally decides to get closer, only this was almost to close, as the big bull charged him after he released the 4th shot. I was actually hoping the damn bull would have run him over for crying out loud!!!
No sportsmanship whatsoever in my humble opinion. Yes, the bull finally went down after almost an hour and half of tracking and shooting etc. I thought the guy and the program STUNK TO HIGH HEAVEN....Not something I would want young bow hunters to believe they must do, in order to bag a bison or any game animal.
Now the Muskox hunts that I have seen on TV, were not as glamorious as some might be made to believe. The temps were below zero and wind blowing 20mph! The muskox would take off, when ever they felt threatened. The hunters could get within 300 yards but the hunter wanted to get closer. Once the hunting group tried several times, they were able to make the shot at 100 yards on snow covered ground.
I hazards involved in just going after these animals were NOT what must hunters ever encounter hunting whitetail deer in their native woods. A group going out across the frozen snow covered ground in sub-zero temps for many miles, leaves lots to be considered, especially if those machines had engine problems. I myself would opt for the sled dogs instead, if I ever take up the want to hunt Muskox in those kind of conditions.
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saddlesore
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Posted: 16 December 2007 07:28 PM |
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| I whole heartly agree, not any sport or challenge to it. Then on the other hand, I don't see any sport or challenge in these guys shooting elk/deer, etc at 800-1000yds when the animal doesn't even know anyone is around. Just killing to me. Seems like it doesn't take much hunting skill in either case.
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Dirtkicker
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Posted: 16 December 2007 08:01 PM |
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| What non-hunters—and anti-hunters especially—do not understand is that without a deep and abiding respect for the animals hunted it is just killing. Nothing more. Hunting is about very much more than killing. They don't get that, and never will. Unfortunately, there are some so-called "hunters" who apparently don't get it either.
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Widux
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| Location: | Melvina, Wisconsin USA |
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Posted: 20 February 2008 12:15 PM |
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I lost my entire page long post-- anyway I hunted them on Nunivak isl in 99 after 22 yrs of applying-- hunt was a challenge--weather in Feb ain't nice-- i went with transporter not guided--you don't think it's hunting well what's sitting in a tree over bait- waiting for buck to come as he does every day?Want more info on hunt I'd be glad to try again to post it when i get done with chores.
add on--Just saw your post Hi ball--you be right on--it was -20 and we were 50 miles form any other folks--if wind had come up bad we would have been stuck till it quit-- it's different-- not better not worse-- just different hunt and not suited to everyone--
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Posted: 20 February 2008 02:34 PM |
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drinks wrote: A friend who worked for Alaska fish and game had the job of taking care of some captive musk ox said they were very docile, very shaggy little goats whose foreward curving horns were at the exact height of the human groin.
Maybe this is where the name Dickhead came from.
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Mark V
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Posted: 21 February 2008 05:24 PM |
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Good post Widux
I too am tired of hunters dividing each other up by pontificating over what is and what is not hunting.
I think it is safe to say that killing any animal in a small enclosed area is not hunting. How small, for me, based on my experience, anything less than about 200 heavily wooded acres would constitute NOT HUNTING but just KILLING.
Outside of that, as long as the hunter is obeying the law I think it very unwise for us to be overly critical of what legal methods a hunter uses to find and harvest their quary. It does nothing but divide us further when we need to be united.
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Widux
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Posted: 21 February 2008 11:45 PM |
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| I agree MarkV--and thanks for comments.
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