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I'll agree with most of what's already been said here. Some of the things that really turn me off about many of these shows are:
Over-reaction by the "hunter" to the kill. Jumping up and down, yelling and screaming about how great the shot was, or how much they've wanted that animal, then hugging and even kissing their guide. I think I'm going to puke!
I grew up in Colorado, and now live in Montana where baiting game animals is not legal. I don't see any "hunting skill" from sitting in a permanent blind or stand and shooting an animal that has come in to a feeding station, or to a pile of grain or alfalfa spread 10 yds in front of a "bow hunter's" blind.
I really don't like shows that make a competition out of hunting. To me, the competition in hunting is me pitting my skills to find and harvest the animal. It has nothing to do with competing against other hunters.
I have hunted turkeys and I first bow hunted almost 40 years ago, but I get sick of show after show after show on turkey hunting and some guy (or girl) sitting in a tree waiting to shoot a deer with their bow. I'm not arguing the legality of it, but I get especially sick of all the shows where the hunter is sitting in a tree over a barrel of bait, waiting to shoot a bear.
And I really get sick of programs that show 5 minutes of hunting, then 15 minutes of two idiots sitting around a fake hunting camp talking about how great their hunt was. Then 10 minutes of commercials, and they have filled a 30 minute show.
The biggest thing that turned me off about Jim Zumbo were't his assinine remarks about "assault" rifles, but the show(s) where he was in the Northwest Territories or the Yukon hunting Dall sheep and he kept complaining how hard the hunt was and how he'd rather be home on the flats. Then, he says he has a Wolverine tag in his pocket, he sees a Wolverine and makes a big deal about how he dosen't want to shoot it.
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I agree whole heartedly that Tread Barta makes me want to simply change the channel in a big hurry! Jackie Bushman, wants TV land to believe he is the greatest of all those that hunt the big bucks! Nobody tells you, they have 8 people on the hunt looking for that big buck, who by the way was already spotted by the rancher or outfitter before Bushman ever left the house. Those boys just don't go hunting unless they know positively, there is a big buck on the property....Most all of them make me sick to my stomach
I will put a plug in for Eastmans Hunting Journal, they make mistakes too but don't try to cover things up and everything is fair chase, usually with a bow. I give that show a solid B for effort and area's they hunt in the wilderness.
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Man its been a long time since I made this post.I am glad to see it actually got some responses.
When I kill a deer and walk up to the animal I just killed,I tell the animal I am sorry for having taken its life...Yet I will honor it by eating it and that is how life is on earth,animals feed on animals..Its just part of the natural order and I am a carnivore..
I don`t do high 5`s and get all ignorant because I took an animals life.It was me and him,and I won..simple and plain..I don`t see it as a big spectacle event.I may take a few pictures,thats for me and I might share em with my friends but in the end,the memories of being alone and hunting the animal are mine as I prefer them to be.
Hunting for me is as much a time to be away from people as it is a time to be with my closest friends in camp..
But in the end when its killing time,I prefer to be alone and do the deed with just me and the life I take..No cameras,no bull shit,just me and the animal.
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Timberghozt wrote: Man its been a long time since I made this post.I am glad to see it actually got some responses.
When I kill a deer and walk up to the animal I just killed,I tell the animal I am sorry for having taken its life...Yet I will honor it by eating it and that is how life is on earth,animals feed on animals..Its just part of the natural order and I am a carnivore..
I don`t do high 5`s and get all ignorant because I took an animals life.It was me and him,and I won..simple and plain..I don`t see it as a big spectacle event.I may take a few pictures,thats for me and I might share em with my friends but in the end,the memories of being alone and hunting the animal are mine as I prefer them to be.
Hunting for me is as much a time to be away from people as it is a time to be with my closest friends in camp..
But in the end when its killing time,I prefer to be alone and do the deed with just me and the life I take..No cameras,no bull s***,just me and the animal.
That was nicely put. 
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I have yet to see a hunting show that I would tune into for a second time. Most I can't stand for more than the first five minutes.
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you hit the nail on the head. If you dont honor and show respect to the game you took, then you are doing it for the wrong reasons.
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Heh, some of those shows are pretty bad. "Hey, I'm Bubba, an' I went out in th' woods and kilt me somethin'." Yeah, pretty bad, generally don't see those through to the end.
I've come to like a couple of 'em though. I look forward to Jim Shocky's show every week. I don't know what it is; perhaps that he explain things, or that he seems to have some of the same attitudes that I was brought up with (respect, conservation, attention/attentiveness), or if it's the places he goes.
I also really look forward to Cowboys. I'm not a cowboy action shooter, but I find it fun watching the action. My wife says it's even more boring than golf!
Uncle Ted's a bit over the top.
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Texas Trophy Hunter is the worst
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Bob,good to see ya.Which channel is TTHA`s association on?I`ve never seen it.
I`ll take your word on it that it is crappy.
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Never seen the show, but if it is anything like the magazine, it's a sure loser. One of our former clients had a damned garage full of a certain TTH issue, he wanted an "article" he wrote published, asked how many copies he'd have to buy for them to publish it, so they gave him a number. He bought them, looked to be in the 5000/10,000 range. Publishing whores, pure and simple.
It was a crappy article, too!
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The Outdoor Channel, I've been watching and reading the forum just haven't had anything worth wild to post about.
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"Hunters" dressed in camo to ride in an enclosed vehicle to an enclosed elevated heated stand where they shoot at "big" whitetails and the 'hunter' never gets his hands dirty! Last edited on Sun May 3rd, 2009 02:53 AM by sako06
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speak'n of hunting shows, can someone please tell me how many damn shows thompson / center seems to be the exclusive sponsor of ? i swear there was a stretch the last time i was surfing the hunting channels where every damn hunter had one of these things in hand. pick up a stinking hunting video at the shop and they're using t / c . that many hunters on several tv shows and video's couldn't be hunting with the same platform without being forced to do so, could they?
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TC has the bucks to spend on advertisements to get their message out to hunters to purchase their products & willing hunters to record their exploits ,it must be working as lots of hunters buy TC including me. Last edited on Wed May 6th, 2009 04:39 AM by sako06
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I read an interesting comment buy a guy named Ballard that wrote a book about elk hunting in Montana.
More or less he said that most of the guys that go with guides are shooters, not hunters.
It got me to thinkin.
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fishinginflorida wrote: I read an interesting comment buy a guy named Ballard that wrote a book about elk hunting in Montana.
More or less he said that most of the guys that go with guides are shooters, not hunters.
It got me to thinkin.
Flatlander
Flatlander, as a guide myself I can say that Ballard`s opinion is total horseshit in my not so humble opinion. And that goes for hunters using a pro guide anywhere.
I have guided for hunters with more cumulative experience on different species than I have.
Using a guide in an area or after a species you have never hunted is actually a wise choice for a hunter.
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morning, fif . that's a different twist. i mean, trying to separate us into groups of "shooters" and "hunters" has always been a popular angle to take for folks interested in bolstering a particularly style of hunting that they favor (i.e. stalking close rather then shooting at a distance). of course, the inference being that "shooters" are bad; "hunters" are good.
never really heard these lines drawn in relation to a person being guided or un-guided, though.
no matter the criteria used to draw these lines, i pretty much think they're equally senseless. regardless of weather you hunt guided or choose to diy; stalk close or shoot from a distance ... if you're using a rifle, you simply have to shoot to succeed at hunting. there's no getting around it. you must be one (a shooter) if you're going to be successful as the other (a hunter). separating the two actions when they're completely related based on a prefered hunting style is a waste of time.
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Thanks for bring that up Tmberghozt
But how about lets compromise and say that Ballard’s opinion is 13/16 total horseshit. Ballard ain’t here to defend himself and I was also responding to someone who had also wrote somewhere on here that hunters were going to a heated stand after a big provided meal in a lodge.
I think I got off tract the original post here. It’s my fault, I’ll try to circle us back around to the trail.
LOL, klallen,  I ain’t trying to start nothing, I didn’t even know there was a shooters vs. hunters thing. I hope you ain’t like my ex-wife, there was someone behind every tree. Grab a beer, we’re suppose to love one another, Obama’s in office.
Now don’t get me wrong, I like guides, I use guides and I help promote fishing guides along the big bend of the gulf coast. I know fishing guides and hunting guides aren’t exactly the same but they are close in many ways.
You said using a guide in an area or after a species you have never hunted is actually a wise choice for a hunter. I know guides that use guides when they travel. They use guides to let someone else to do the work, learn new or unfamiliar waters, see how fishing techniques change with geographical areas and get real-time info on what is biting, when, what it is biting, and how its biting(we call it bitin around here).
If I was to ever go somewhere to hunt or fish a new species in an unfamiliar area I would hope I could get some help in either the form of a local friend or a guide to help me learn the lay of the land. And if I was rich enough I’d get a guide almost every time.
I have great respect for guides many who I count as friends and some best friends. What I was referring to and I think Mr. Ballard was referring to and also some of responses to this post are referring to are
1. (I videoed this one) We were turkey hunting with some guide friends of mine in an area that had no hunting pressure. The Osceola’s came out of the woods into the open like chickens coming to the barn. The feeder not to far away but far enough away to be legal, the hunter missed the first shot at the dominate gobbler at about 10 yards and then shot and hit the secondary gobbler at about 40 yards at a dead run through planted pines. I’m sure there are better turkey hunters than me but Osceola’s aren’t known for being in the open very long and when I see these show where they walk out like this is how turkey life is I start to wonder.
2. A Guy has a big plantation west of me had a big bore hog pen’d up until the clients got there, then they let it loose in front of them to shot. he told me this.
3. Friends of mine, turkey, deer and hog guide had a big bore hog pen’d up until the clients got there, then let it loose in front of them to shot.
4. Saw on TV where they drove the clients to a stand in Texas after a nice meal and they climbed into the stand and shot the deer an across open a field.
A. Realtor 1 I know has deer heads all over his office he got them this way
B. Realtor 2 I know has deer heads all over his office he got them this way
C. Insurance guy that my daddy uses has deer heads all over his office he got them this way.
Anyway, yes many guided hunts are very good at the least for the reasons list above, to get the lay of the land and learn and all.
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